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10/8/2014 14:21:09   
lukeloverboy
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 why bounty cant get block for massacre?
why mercenary gets blocks for stun, double strike and berzerker? when he is using energy and has a lot strength.

So please fix it no blocks for strikes with energy or for berzerker block first 1 and other two not or second and first block and last damage not.

It is not fair when used 620 energy for 7stun and 8 berzerker with a chance to stun and more than 1000 damage and because of block all u get is 2 times 30 damage.


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< Message edited by Therril Oreb -- 10/8/2014 14:50:28 >
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10/8/2014 14:38:31   
Mother1
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Massacre back in epic duel beta at one point was in fact blockable. However, due to it getting blocked too many times for a very high cost of energy and complaints like the one you are making it was made unblockable. However, Massacre unlike all the other blockable moves is an ultimate skill like surgical strike and supercharge which makes it so these moves are free of luck factors.

However as for this suggestion not supported. Doing this would be an indirect nerf to dex seeing as Dex is what is responsible for high block chance and would indirectly buff strength builds (From what I am seeing the build you are using) due to them having a way to get free unblockable hits as long as they use energy.

Combine this with rage and it will really hurt those who have high defenses.

If you don't want to get blocked invest in more dex, and/or don't use blockable moves if you can help it against builds that have a higher block chance than you.
Epic  Post #: 2
10/10/2014 12:24:58   
lukeloverboy
Member
 

 look,
bounty has 2 moves strike and cheap shot that can be blocked.
mag has strike and bladgeone again 2 moves that can be blocked (energy steel can be blocked only for health not energy amount).
Mercenary can be blocked when strike, double strike, stun, berzerker and energy steel! so mercenary has many uslles skills, all good is about mercenary is support build for bunker and multy.
So if the game stops blocking strikes with energy all will be equal! the game become faster and longer at the same time, still many more strikes will be made without energy which can be blocked because there is not a lot energy, not a lot can gain or steel.



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10/10/2014 13:42:25   
slumbering insomniac
Member

untrue, assimilate can also be blocked and so can malfunction, smokescreen and mark of blood (even though they may be slightly different)
Epic  Post #: 4
10/10/2014 14:27:01   
lukeloverboy
Member
 

 true
and if there was blocks just on simple strikes with no skills with energy?
Post #: 5
10/10/2014 14:56:55   
Mother1
Member

Then only

strike
energy parasite
static smash
Assaimiation

would be blockable.

If this went into play many builds would become unplayable due to what they use with their builds for block chance would go out the window while strength builds like the one you are using will be even harder to stop.

Energy will become even more hard pressed seeing as it would grantee free unblockable hits as long as energy is used, and rage will become an even bigger problem due to this.

No offense but we already have problems with strength builds and strength build hybrid due to them having a content source of output with few counters. All this will be doing is making that worse. If you are having issues with blocks then don't use blockable moves on someone with higher dex than you, and if you risk it always expect it could happen.

If you have no back ups for this if it does happen than your build is the problem not blocks themselves.

Epic  Post #: 6
10/10/2014 15:07:20   
lukeloverboy
Member
 

 so i like strength build, but that win stats is really bad just because of blocks, from 1100 damage stun with berzerker makes just 60 and that happened few times.
even if i did that much damage 750 hp and 250 resistance that a win for me if i stun. even with lower dex blocks and much lower lvls did win against me, so that is wrong, just because of blocks.
Still if there was no blocks i have no chance against smart build lvl 40 high dex and tech, and my def stays law with low hp, and i get damage and cant block when both can block only strike without energy or skill involved.
i like to help you find a solution, give me few days if i change my mind.

< Message edited by lukeloverboy -- 10/10/2014 15:30:32 >
Post #: 7
10/10/2014 16:04:30   
  Exploding Penguin
Moderator


 The win rates are bad because you made a build that has so many holes and weaknesses that it easily gets hard-countered.

Not all strength builds are the ones you make. You can make a good strength build with few weaknesses which would bring up your win rate. Because berzerker is extremely efficient in terms of damage-for-energy cost, and maul is pretty much the best stun in the game, it's definitely acceptable that they can be blocked.
Epic  Post #: 8
10/10/2014 16:17:14   
lukeloverboy
Member
 

 everyone has halls, thats why u cant win always, you just repeated my suggestion that this game can leave blocks only for simple strikes but count in all.
all builds are good and bad at the same time, there is maths involved.
My build can be challenge to any other, just fight can be much faster in first place and at the end can be very long, so? my build is not good just because mercenary has this skills?!

< Message edited by lukeloverboy -- 10/10/2014 16:20:37 >
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10/10/2014 16:22:25   
Silver Sky Magician
Member


 *Sigh*

Your build is bad. Change it. Why on earth should the game have to change for you? It's very simple - if you don't add to dex, you should be prepared to be blocked when using melee attacks. If you don't want to be blocked, add to dex. You can't just spam skills and expect to win. Just listen to yourself - you're saying that you should be able to use any build you like and still have a good win ratio. That's absurd and selfish.

< Message edited by Silver Sky Magician -- 10/10/2014 16:25:51 >
Post #: 10
10/10/2014 16:38:35   
lukeloverboy
Member
 

 im saying that this game can be much better without blocks!
stpd u, not me selfish.
Post #: 11
10/10/2014 16:41:08   
  Battle Elf
has ten 1v1 wins


 Hey everyone,

I'm gonna go ahead and lock this thread up since it's turned into a discussion of balance and builds. In the future, please use the ED Balance Forum for balance discussion. Also remember that flaming will not be tolerated and will result in warnings.

Locked.

Thanks,
Battle Elf
ED GD Archknight
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