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5/17/2016 20:11:56   
The berserker killer
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 Any arguing or unconstructive criticism is not appreciated. Please be respectful or I will ask for this thread to be locked.

I'm not sure if it's possible but, if it is, it will be very interesting. My suggestion is to be able to have a buddy as your ally even when he/she is offline.

There are two ways I imagine setting this up:

First one is more sophisticated, as it requires there to be some sort of computerized system similar to that of NPCS. This will determine which attack to use and when to heal. Now this is fairly difficult since players, as opposed to NPCS, can vary their builds at any time hence making it incredibly difficult for the computer to come up with a set "style".

The easier way, the one I highly recommend, is to simply load in your ally and his equipment, and give the user full control in battle.

< Message edited by The berserker killer -- 5/17/2016 20:12:16 >
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 1
5/17/2016 20:29:25   
Lord Machaar
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Having a NPC as an ally is better than having an off-line player, for 2 reasons:
- Easily manipulated to serve as allies (Since we already have them).
- This way everyone gets same options. Not everybody is high level/has high level players in their buddy lists. And also this way, unlocking features in-game will be solely depending on you.

We can develop ally system in a way where, each NPC you defeat becomes an ally or sort of "servant", for instance, I defeated Titan, he will get on my allies list and I can use him as an ally versus some bosses that require an ally. For instance I click on Armor hazard, and there would be 2 options, Challenge with an ally player, or challenge with an ally NPC of your choice, you click on that and a list pops out of NPC that I have defeated and I can use as an ally vs the same boss. Legendary bosses can or can not be used as allies, depending on the boss you wish to fight. But either ways, I don't think Legendary bosses should be alli-able now, unless they release a legendary boss that requires an ally with 50k - 100k HP, and you can hire Legendary god of war/Dage/legendary titan... as your ally.

Not supported "off-line" characters of players as allies due to reasons mentioned above. I support making all NPC alli-able- vs ally bosses.

< Message edited by Lord Machaar -- 5/18/2016 0:09:07 >
MQ Epic  Post #: 2
5/17/2016 20:33:08   
The berserker killer
Member

 

 Thank you for your reply. I have suggested something like that before however for some reason. Apparently ranloth just signed it off saying it was "impossible". Here is what I posted below.

quote:


Most people have trouble finding allies for NPC Boss Battles... So I suggest that there be a Ally Shop where we basically get to buy our ally. There will be an extra slot in our inventory labeled "Allies" and we can equip one Ally who will remain equipped until we select "Challenge" on a Boss.

We could buy Slayer, Titan, Charfade, Nightwraith, Junker, Exile Soldier, Mirv, everyone. This will pave the way for MEGA BOSSES where we will have to buy bosses in order to beat these MEGA BOSSES. Bosses we could buy would include Exile Leader, Admin 10, Admin 11, Frysteland King. Maybe Titan, NW and Char should be labeled as bosses.

AQ DF Epic  Post #: 3
5/17/2016 20:38:20   
  Exploding Penguin
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 It would definitely be cool if NPCs who you've beaten, or at least those you have the cheevo for, can be allies in bosses in some form or another. It would give more incentive than just for the achivement to beat certain NPCs, particularly if some are better than others vs. certain 2v1 bosses.
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5/17/2016 20:40:17   
Lord Machaar
Member

If using already existing NPCs as allies is impossible, although their skills are predictable and devs can manipulate them, then I don't think using offline characters of players would be any easier, on the contrary, it would be harder, due to the huge diversity in builds and whatnot.

quote:

Most people have trouble finding allies for NPC Boss Battles... So I suggest that there be a Ally Shop where we basically get to buy our ally. There will be an extra slot in our inventory labeled "Allies" and we can equip one Ally who will remain equipped until we select "Challenge" on a Boss.

Either ways, I think defeating bosses in order to be your allies is better than buying them, that way leveling up would be required to better up your list of allies instead of buying them with varium at level 20.

I don't think the suggestion is impossible but it rather needs too much work unlocking all NPCs and whatnot. Implemented or not, remains a cool feature, especially after player base is falling down and it's so much hard to find allies (Legendary Merged is the best example and how devs had to fix that), technically it doesn't need much work because all of the NPCs are there with their skills, so devs wouldn't be creating any new content, but I think the problem lays in unlocking these NPCs. Would be great to get a clarification from one of the staff.

< Message edited by Lord Machaar -- 5/17/2016 20:42:48 >
MQ Epic  Post #: 5
5/17/2016 20:40:27   
The berserker killer
Member

 

 Thanks for the reply. Maybe you can check why Ranloth said it was "Impossible" (actually said it was impossible ). Well here's his quote

quote:

Just like choosing any NPC for a Boss battle is impossible, buying them would fall under the same category.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 6
5/17/2016 20:45:37   
Lord Machaar
Member

quote:

Just like choosing any NPC for a Boss battle is impossible


Ofcourse, we aren't going to be having all NPCs as an ally option. Devs will start with 5 NPCs that can be used as allies (List gets bigger with time), and you can pick one of them. I think the word "any" is what made him say it's impossible. If you can challenge an ally boss with both an ally player or an ally NPC, adding the option of challenging him with different "NPC allies" that devs have already worked on would be possible. Ofcourse I'm not saying that in 2 days devs can make this feature with a magical click, and you can challenge armor hazard with Oz or any NPC you wish. Ofcourse devs will have to do some work and program some handpicked NPCs. List gets bigger with time that is.

< Message edited by Lord Machaar -- 5/17/2016 20:48:30 >
MQ Epic  Post #: 7
5/17/2016 20:57:15   
The berserker killer
Member

 

 Thanks for your reply.

I wish he would have explained that. The ability to have bosses as allys will be a feature that players can enjoy. To add some depth to it, so that this isn't a "short lived" feature, I do suggest implementing it a certain way.

Example: In order to unlock a npc as your ally you need to collect it's "(NPC Name) Ally" shard.

The ally shard drops from the NPC.

Depending on the NPC, the % drop chance may vary.

This way players will be obsessed with trying to catch them all, similar to that of pokemon, and completing the list.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 8
5/17/2016 21:35:52   
Amethystlock
Member

it'll make for good balance, some people don't ally-link, some people get allied with people who're either low-leveled or not attacking with their full potential mayhem. or worse, people who log out so you're left to your own devices and self.
strategies get changed up all the time too from this, plotting mischief comes to a new level, a lot for one person to handle, but that's what makes strategy so good - your decisions' impact is bigger than yourself, it affects others.

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~Arrrr
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
5/17/2016 21:43:09   
The berserker killer
Member

 

 Thank you for your reply.

That was the plan. At least with this system you know what you're getting yourself into and, if you wish, you can fight for a better ally.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 10
5/17/2016 22:28:54   
Altador987
Member

supported
AQW Epic  Post #: 11
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