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Ranloth -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 15:15:14)

I have one build in mind I wanna try after TM and BM nerfs.. :D Dex SC will still work but I have other in mind which might do poorly currently with power builds that kills us all but after the change, it might be quite decent. :D
Simply Assimilation build but slightly tweaked to my liking. xD



Arevero -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 17:38:48)

:D

YES, Friday 13th Cheevo, just the one i need in my rare cheevo collection, of course i have more to collect just than that, i will need the Halloween one after this! [:D][:D]



Basicball -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 17:53:16)

anyone else experiencing problems loging in to ED?

EDIT: nvm, been able to log in now



ScarletReaper -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 21:03:47)

BM really does need a strength nerf. This is coming from someone who has a bm character. However they do need to give us more build options. Right now our options are pretty much strength, or high tech max plasma cannon, max plasma rain. Which some people seem to forget is a viable option. I guess because hardly anyone uses it, but it is POWERFULL!



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 21:10:04)

@Trans you wont be toying with my Assim build will you


after reading, rereading and reading yet again I'm left wondering one thing about this update, what are Hazards doing in the minetower?



XxKirachanXx -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 21:49:57)

And now I'm curious, I noticed that with the latest update had added a mission that gives a fairly low level varium maul.
Do you think they might add a low(-ish) level varium staff and blades to that soon? :3



JohnMenzies -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 21:52:18)

^Also a gun :p[:D]



XxKirachanXx -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 21:55:38)

^

Well now you make me sound like I'm asking for too much :3
...perhaps I am ;w;



JohnMenzies -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 21:58:39)

On a serious note how about a new Bunny Boss that has a Drop Armor?



Joe10112 -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 22:17:47)

@JohnMenzies: Prediction: End of Saga, we'll get nonvar Bunny Armor Drops from Electro Hazard. If that happens, remember, I called it first :P




Minus123 -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/11/2012 23:56:24)

Hope friday 13th cheevo comnig back, I'll finally have something to use tokens on xD



comicalbike -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/12/2012 2:22:46)

as the classes are getting nerfed will that get admin 11 harder the npc bosses are hard for the players now



Ranloth -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/12/2012 3:37:38)

@OWA
Of course not! *whistles innocently..* [8|] ;)

@comicalbike
Yeah, this is the issue we must raise. I believe Armor Hazard is barely beatable now with CHs only, CH and TLM can work but much harder if possible with any other class. :/



Zeoth -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/12/2012 3:46:21)

Oh so THAT'S why he mopped the floor with me and my buddy earlier >_> I thought I had mysteriously gotten weaker o:



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/12/2012 14:59:38)

@Trans if it becomes OP'ed remember I made it



Ranloth -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/12/2012 15:31:32)

I'd fail to see it become OPed as it's basically Support build with higher Assimilate (I want it modified so you know) and I've been using low Assimilate before anyway whilst having okay ratio of wins. Only difference will be probably better use of Assimilate or I'll alter it for Str-Tank instead but we'll see. :P



ScarletReaper -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/12/2012 17:36:12)

[>:]I beat armorhazard earlier with a tank bh for a partner, so no, not only ch and tlm can do it.[>:]



Mr. Black OP -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 0:09:08)

^
Also some CH have soloed armor.



Ranloth -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 9:48:33)

quote:

Lycus @LycusED
Testing testing testing! This CS5 change over is awesome, but hardwork :/


^_^



ansh0 -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 11:26:49)

@Trans,I thought your smiley was a link xD


Interesting release, not quite what I was looking for but it's still something.



BadLT -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 11:49:40)

Still waiting for the weps for cheaper VARIUM packages



RabbleFroth -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 11:54:03)

Update on the TM caster balance:

This needed to be a very targeted nerf to those specifically stacking a lot of Tech and using Plasma Bolt + Plasma Rain to deal large amounts of damage very quickly. So instead of tweaking the numbers, which would affect all TMs, we swapped the scaling on Plasma Rain and Supercharge. This would still allow a "pure caster" build of Technology for high damage, but the damage will be dealt slower and require more energy, allowing for some counterplay between spell salvos. You can also have a Dex utility build of Overload + Plasma Rain, but the damage will be lower. In both cases there are stat requirements on one of the skills that prevent you from putting everything into a single stat and going crazy.

In short, the changes are:
* Plasma Rain now scales with Dexterity instead of Technology
* Supercharge now scales with Technology and requires Dexterity



Goony -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 12:07:47)

Might slow em down a bit, but unless the dexterity reqirement on supercharge is high the damage will now allow them to regain health... Plasma cannon supercharge builds on Bloodmages?



Ranloth -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 12:13:39)

Damn.. If I had P Armor, I could still use my SC build but obviously can't now.. Might try and look for one but may be tough. Heads up, I can go back to my Support build as well so don't mind or test 2v2 build consisting of moderate Support, high Dex, E Armor, decent Heal, HP, Reroute, etc. Let's see how it will work after it's live as my SC build won't work anymore for obvious reasons unless I suffer from much lower Defence.

Rabble, any news on BM changes this week or are they pushed back?

Also Tech SC, I think it'll be even worse. Abuse Tech, high HP and EP, Reroute, Plasma Bolt and SC..



Goony -> RE: =ED= April 10th Design Notes (4/13/2012 12:25:49)

If I change this build with 1 less Defence Matrix and train 1 supercharge how do the changes effect the build?

Mage Build

Not much and the dex requirement will not even effect it! With max technician it does 103 damage with a level 1 plasma bolt fo a cost of 11 energy (31 including technician)



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