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s0u1ja b0y -> Weapons Not Equal (3/20/2014 21:51:31)

Make weapons unequal again like before. Build diversity can be achieved and people cant just copy your build. It would add more strategy and this is a PVP game. Remember when using mjolnir(a lvl 20 weapon) was more of a benefit than some lvl 30 weapons. It needs to be like that again.




InFlamed Fury -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 1:08:38)

Yes this would be a good idea but at the same time it can make the game Pay 2 Win again (Which is why they changed it in the 1st place)

Sorry but not supported.




coolboyelazizy -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 1:29:51)

Not supported For the reasons as above.




s0u1ja b0y -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 2:02:07)

How is that p2w? Since credits and Varium are equal everyone would still have the same opportunity. It would still be like it is now




Mother1 -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 2:55:14)

Actually the reason why they change weapon to be the same are the following

1 it would be easier for balance purposes
2 players who didn't have rare items would no longer be at a disadvantage stat wise
3 you wouldn't have to look of specific weapons for certain builds.
4 you wouldn't have to consistently buy new gear because your old gear got outdated.

So for all these reasons I can't support this idea.




Remorse -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 4:00:35)

They could make small stat to damage trade-offs and damage to stats trade offs.


For example sacrifice 1 damage for 3 extra stats and leveling up of the weapons would continue as normal just ending up with the same 1 less damage for 3 extra stats.




This would distinguish some weapons from others, but at the same time stop them being perishable.






s0u1ja b0y -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 15:54:24)

They could do like aqw and have enhancements. Something needs to be done or throw "balance" out the window. As long as weapons are equal balance can't be achieved. A decent build is found and since weapons are equal, everyone copies it. If weapons aren't made unequal again, then build diversity needs to be a focus.




Darkforce832 -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 17:05:57)

Im pretty sure people would still be able to copy others build. If people are able to switch to the OP class of the day, what would stop them from switching to the best weapon of the day.

Some builds aren't diverse today because they have a clear advantage over all the other builds, such as str-hp builds. Stats and some skills need to be fixed in order to get players to want to make different builds.




Predator9657 -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/21/2014 17:15:55)

Equal weapons damage/stats are fine as they are. The difference between which rare cores a weapon carries is "unequal" enough for diversity/strategy.




s0u1ja b0y -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (3/23/2014 1:41:32)

It would be huge decrease in build copying. A lvl 20 or 25 couldn't just copy a lvl 40s build and would have to come up with there own builds. IF WEAPONS ARE EQUAL BALANCE CANNOT HAPPEN. Until weapons are made unequal again, ever single balance change is a waste a time. Enhancements would allow originality and make build copying harder.


If every class could achieve a win rate of 70%, but BMS could get 75% everyone would hop and copy the build from lvl 1 to 40. Even though that would be closed to balanced, it would appear terrible.




kosmo -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (4/7/2014 14:36:10)

Ahahah I remember when I was forced to use monjlir, but my opponent no, they didn t have a monjlir....they had frostbane and beta wepons....People copies build because they can t make a better one, they always did it, and those ones that acted as pros when var weps gave stat advantage, now struglle in evry single fight and started coping builds too.The more you need skill to win the more you ll see people coping builds.




s0u1ja b0y -> RE: Weapons Not Equal (4/10/2014 18:48:59)

Not really. You would have to save the credits to buy your opponents weapons.




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