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santonik -> Techmage (assimilation) (12/30/2016 18:58:08)

THis need nerf littlebit. STR builds can spam very often this skill. every 4 turn. assimilation can be dominating too easyly against energy depentent builds. (mostly high energy)

-170 energy is guaranteed energy damage whit 0 str


-215 energy is guaranteed energy damage whit 45 str


-270 energy is guaranteed energy damage whit 100 str


If i can choose i take out that STR buff. still it is pretty good. Dont forgot techmage have that battery too.

So basically 10 lvl assimilation doing -170 energy damage. no matter str anymore.


THis give littlebit more counter play. specially high energy vs str techmage.



Stonehawk -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (12/31/2016 11:55:32)

Santonik wants the game to nerf everything that kills his high energy build.



NDB -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (12/31/2016 12:24:42)

Because strength is so vastly under-powered in the current state of the game, it would be a bad idea to change it. However, I will admit that assimilation with strength is extremely and somewhat disproportionately powerful given that it was meant as a supporting skill since TMs already have battery backup, making it more effective than most static grenades at this point and certainly draining more than most static smashes or energy parasites. So if strength were to get a buff, then I think I would probably support some kind of nerf to the skill.



Stonehawk -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (12/31/2016 12:31:41)

@NDB

Assimilation is already enough nerfed. It's blockable, does only 85% damage and regains only 40% the energy drained from opponent (down from 50%).
Strength needs a buff, but assimilation is still going to be fine after its buff.



NDB -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (12/31/2016 12:35:18)

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Strength needs a buff, but assimilation is still going to be fine after its buff.

Its impossible to make that kind of a statement until we know exactly the change that is made and how it effects battles. That's why I said I would *probably* support a change but there is no way anybody can know if it would be appropriate at this point.



Mother1 -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (12/31/2016 14:01:37)

While assimilation with strength is strong it is still the weakest energy drainer in the game due to it's extremely high scaling. Most other energy drainers in not all of them are stronger than assimilation is even the one that no one uses due to it being locked to a class specific weapon atom smasher.

Plus as mentioned before due to strength getting several nerfs both direct and indirect strength builds have very little going for them so with all this I can't support it.




nowras -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (12/31/2016 18:48:26)

It needs a buff, not a nerf. Strength builds are the worst builds ever. Using them means you're suiciding. They are only capable of defeating support builds. If you, as a non-support build user, ever lose to a strength build while you focused in the battle, then you're really unskilled.



Mother1 -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (12/31/2016 21:08:57)

@ Nowras

Strength in general needs a buff not just Assimilation. It has been nerfed so hard that it isn't variable or barely so at the higher levels. Lower levels wouldn't even bother to do this seeing as Dex abuse and support abuse are far more rewarding given the class that is playing.



santonik -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (1/1/2017 0:44:56)

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Santonik wants the game to nerf everything that kills his high energy build.

I want nerf energy controll. I want buff high energy players. This weaken energy controll against high energy. I dont want think only myself. I Believing this. high energy players over 1000+ energy is underdogs. no matter what is that class.

THis game is not favor high energy players. Old eras have caster builds. I remember good caster builds to techmages, my unique build to merc. caster merc whit unique weapon stats. i remember odd builds boynty and other classess too.

most Players whining first and dont try think. it is not crime. some wise man saying this to me long,long time ago. See same thing at least 3 different angle. then you noticed something. (my eyes,your eyes and outsider eyes)

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I have seen pretty good STR techmages. Those killing my high energy player pretty easyly. heal looping and assimilation spamming. I can say that assimilation kill too many builds too easyly. even 5 focus is good energy controll. (-215 energy +86 energy )
This mean opponents zero energy. think this

Techmage vs all other class

Techmage can controll too heavyly in this energy controll. (specially STR making this)
IF we nerf that assimilation that allow better counter game (specially energy users) (every classes)

I knowing it effect tech mages balance and it need maybe buff other STR skill tree skills. I can say STR techmage is pretty good attacker. Techmage specially is locked damage to defence (STR skill tree skills)

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This game is generally too high energy gaining/destroy skills/cores. This meaning every GOOD build is minimum energy build. because those build get energy. most of time a lot energy. Same energy number isnt same affective in this game. Because we dont
play same builds. Most economy per energy is stat abusers. then coming focus builds. I want open your eyes showing what i seeing in this game balance.

I have noticed this. worst energy controll is high energy players. (odd) Still high energy players need most often in that energy. and i talking over 1000+ energy players
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crownthedeadman -> RE: Techmage (assimilation) (1/1/2017 3:02:21)

well i dont think asslimiation need nerf right now. actually the tech mage energy loop does. they need to buff asslimiation and remove battery backup, as they cant nerf battery backup because that would also nerf tact merc. actually right now i dont really think they need a nerf or buff altogether because it might mess up altogether.



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