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2/23/2010 18:04:11   
stealthwings
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And ignoring the run on sentence, I will restate what I said in the DNs thread about korin insulting DF
quote:


Original: Me

MQ has had a lot of really tiny releases. I think that DFs release is going to be amazing, and Cy and Korin going after them is just a conspiracy to make us think it will only be a normal fish. That fish is not going to be normal. And there are 252 words in korins run on sentence.


And Happy B-day blues

Deleted spam sentence. ~Ein

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DF MQ  Post #: 26
2/23/2010 18:08:58   
Chisanaru
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Happy Birthday Blues!

Also, I forgot to tell you! I'm going to steal your gifts & cake! (If you get any...)
Post #: 27
2/23/2010 18:24:38   
EinhanderX01
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The next person to attempt any ridiculous and pointlessly off-topic run-on sentences will get a warning. Discuss the information, or don't post. ~Ein

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Post #: 28
2/23/2010 18:36:10   
serioussam
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lol! That is a very long run-on sentence.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 29
2/23/2010 18:49:42   
zanathos
Member

Ok i will try not to make any bad run on snetences.


I think it was insanely funny waht Korin did, in fact i think that the Df release will be just a simple fish, cuz fish are bad and i hope that this planet gets finished soon and its also weird how all those things are fixed, yet i didnt have any of those problems and i also agree with einhander that meaningless run on sentences are not productive at all and I have a very important question, will we see the end of the Necryptos storyline soon, because i really want to get to the next planet already.
DF MQ AQW  Post #: 30
2/23/2010 19:06:22   
Moglin Crazed09
Member

Blues, you wouldn't happen to be Ash's Third cousin twice removed...Or maybe his Mechquest counter part? Or maybe Elmo's sworn enemy?...

Anyway....
Happy birthday to Blue
Happy birth day to Blue
Happy birth day deer Blue,
And may you have...*Ahem*...Well over thousands of years until you (falcon)reach Dragonfable and turn into some other NPC...
Happy Birth day to you.
DF MQ AQW  Post #: 31
2/23/2010 19:46:09   
caneyempor
Member

uh yeah monkey its face palm not brick you should have a doctor take a look at it and oh yeah long live the shadow syche

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MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 32
2/23/2010 21:02:59   
neodiabolus
Member

I wonder what they'll do w/ the blood shards.... Anyways, Korin's run-on sentence could be turned into a completely correct sentence with a few well-placed commas. In theory.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 33
2/24/2010 1:02:58   
megakyle777
Member

The fact that AQW and MQ Staff are talking about the fist means one of two things:

1. The rest of the staff are jelous and are preparing for WAR!

2. The Jhonnyfish is gonna be awesome.

If it's one, then take a break yourselfes guys. We don't mind a really small release once in a while.
DF  Post #: 34
2/24/2010 7:44:02   
Iaon
Member

MQ team you should totally take a break.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 35
2/24/2010 23:31:06   
dorkvader
Member

Normally I don't frequent this forum. I shall do my best to abide by the rules. This post is about Korin's grammar, or, more appropriately the lack thereof. here I will discuss my philosophy of language and communication, and how it applies, a recommendation, etc. After that, I'll meticulously attempt to fix the sentence posted in the recent design notes primarily relying on the fact that semicolons can be used to artificially-extend related sentences. If anyone can stand Faulkner's writings, surely they will agree this is true. (he was famous for lengthy sentences).

As far as I know, this topic does not beak any rule, except perhaps #9, by which I must categorise the game's design notes as part of the game itself insofar (at least) as they announce updates, news, bug-fixes, and plot updates. Not the least of these is the last, which is critical to the plat. As such, I feel you will agree that this post is as much about the game as one discussing other plot references in the Design Notes. I ask that any disagreement on this point be posted or Pm'd to me so that I may debate it on philosophic terms.

To begin: It seems Korin doesn't feel his writing style is perhaps frowned upon by elementary, middle, or, perhaps High-school teachers. I suppose this could be correct. First we must define a sentence and a run-on sentence, then we will compare the two. First as sentence is a piece of language, either written, or typed, or communicated in some other standardised form of communication usually beginning with a capital letter, and always ending in a period (or a period-ellipsis like so....) signifying the end. It is used to clearly mark out one complete coherent thought. Sentences usually contain a Noun and a Verb (either of which may be implied). A subordinate clause is a clause (containing a noun and a verb) that can stand alone as a regular sentence, so some concatenation is allowable. A run-on sentence is defined as : "An ungrammatical sentence in which two or more independent clauses are conjoined without a conjunction" ( http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=run-on%20sentence). From this, we can assume that any sentence, with proper conjunction use is not a run-on. The grade-school teacher's definition seems to include any sentence with more than two subordinate clauses, or with more than two distinct thoughts expressed.

The erudite reader will see that based on this, as long as Korin includes proper conjunction use, his sentence should appease those teachers, especially if he provides the documentation here. For the purpose of our edification, we will assume more is at stake and attempt to re-write it use a minimum or conjunctions, and a maximum of semicolons. This will allow Korin to have a grammatically proper sentence that will look polished, neat, and appeasing to the close scrutiny of those teachers.

to begin, Here is Korin's Master-work in full:
quote:

First, I know we fixed a few bugs and Maegwyn has made a lovely little list for me to post which I will do sometime near or around the end of this sentence which is a run-on sentence which I heard was bad to do ever since they taught me in English but I can't remember if it was High School English or Middle School or even Elementary School but all I remember is that run-on sentences are bad and that you shouldn't do them because if you do a Moglin loses it's ears which is just a myth as far as I'm concerned so you really shouldn't worry about it but don't do it anyway and this makes me wonder how many words are in this sentence even though I'm making a joke about run-on sentences when you shouldn't be making them and pretending like I never make them even though I'm making one now should at least get a chuckle out of some people but it still seems like I should be concerned about how many words are in the sentence because it's looking like a giant paragraph right now but that's absurd because so far I don't see any periods which is amazing because I thought I at least made one normal sentence at the top of this paragraphy but apparently I didn't which is really weird but enough stalling and I hope you laughed but here is Maeqwyn's Fix List and never use run-on sentences because they're bad.


From the first word, we can see this sentence should include a list somewhere. We can separate it into separate items
I.
1. fixed a few bugs
2. maegwyn has a list for him to post
-break for run-on definition-

Since all the list items are delineated before the sentence diverges, we can break up item II, the run-on part, into bits.
-he heard run-ons are bad
-His English teacher said so It was either
a. high school or
b. Middle School or
c. elementary school
-they are bad
-you shouldn't do them or a moglin loses it's ears
-which is just a myth as far as Korin's Concerned
-Even still you shouldn't worry about it
-but don't do it anyway
-#words?

-even though:
-he's making a joke at the same time as you should'nt be making them
-at the same time, he's also pretending like he never makes them even though he's making one now
-this fact should get a chuckle

-it seems he should be concerned about word count
-it's looking like a giant paragraph
-which is absurd because he doesn't see any periods
-which is amazing because he thought he made at least one normal sentence above
-but apparently he didn't, which is weird
-but enough stalling; hope you laughed
-here is the fix list
-never use run-on sentences because they're bad

---
the middle section was broken up because it seems to be a run-on sub-sentence, that is, two parts are related (the fact that he's making a run on whilst pretending not to should get a laugh)

Each of these individual ideas can be combined with the next one by only adding words and punctuation (marked). Here is an attempt:
quote:

First, I know we fixed a few bugs and Maegwyn has made a lovely little list for me to post, which I will do sometime near or around the end of this sentence, which is a run-on sentence, which I heard was bad to do ever since they taught me in English, but I can't remember if it was High School English, or Middle School English, or even Elementary School English, but all I remember is that run-on sentences are bad, and that you shouldn't do them, because if you do: a Moglin loses it's ears, which is just a myth as far as I'm concerned, so you really shouldn't worry about it, but don't do it anyway, and this makes me wonder how many words are in this sentence, even though I'm making a joke about run-on sentences when you shouldn't be making them and pretending like I never make them even though I'm making one now should at least get a chuckle out of some people, but it still seems like I should be concerned about how many words are in the sentence, because it's looking like a giant paragraph right now, but that's absurd because so far, I don't see any periods, which is amazing because I thought I at least made one normal sentence at the top of this paragraphy, but apparently I didn't, which is really weird, but enough stalling and I hope you laughed, but here is Maeqwyn's Fix List and never use run-on sentences because they're bad.


One can see all that needs to be added are some commas. They were used here to separate out the individual thoughts, and draw the reader's attention to all the legitimately used conjunctions. note that Korin in urged to change the word "paragraphy" to "paragraph", as this may be a typographical error.

Now that that is settled, we must consider whether it was necessary. My Philosophical idea on language and communication is as follows:
1. language is a tool used to communicate thoughts to others
2. If a thought is successfully communicated, no matter what the manner, the method of language has succeeded.

A corollary is:
a. Proper spelling and grammar need net be used, but they are still necessary as they serve as a standard such that it facilitates the purpose of language: to communicate. If a thought is communicated successfully with improper grammar, language succeeded, but the chances of successfully communicating rise the more proper the language used.

This explains the need both for standardized language and the need for proper spelling and grammar. Korin's post was likely understood by us all, and although his methods are a little gauche, since the point was made, no amendment is necessary. Discussion to follow: was korin's post funny? Which part of his sentence was the hardest to understand? Is grammar really necessary? etc. I urge readers to try cramming in more semi-colons and taking out conjunctions. I will post a further edited version later, after I'm done working on waht takes me away from my posting here.

Here is some information about long sentences that may be humorous to readers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_English_sentence

I bid you great thanks for reading this far. Cheers!
DF MQ  Post #: 36
2/24/2010 23:54:37   
neodiabolus
Member

@dorkvader May I suggest putting a cautionary "Block of text!" before any very long posts?

Anyways, I agree with what you're saying, in part. In theory, one can make an infinitely-long sentence, albeit it would be highly impractical. Here is Korin's sentence, grammatically correct (theoretically):

Firstly, I know that we fixed a few bugs, and Maegwyn has made a lovely little list for me to post, which I will do sometime near or around the end of this sentence, which is a run-on sentence, which I heard was bad to do, since they taught me in English, but I can't remember if it was High School English, or Middle School [English], or even Elementary School [English], but all I remember is that run-on sentences are bad and that you shouldn't do them because if you do, a Moglin loses its ears, which is just a myth as far as I'm concerned, so you really shouldn't worry about it, but don't do it anyway, and this makes me wonder how many words are in this sentence, even though I'm making a joke about run-on sentences when you shouldn't be making them and pretending like I never make them, even though I'm making one now (should at least get a chuckle out of some people), but it still seems like I should be concerned about how many words are in the sentence because it's looking like a giant paragraph right now, but that's absurd because so far I don't see any periods, which is amazing because I thought I at least made one normal sentence at the top of this paragraph, but apparently I didn't, which is really weird, but enough stalling, and I hope you laughed, but here is Maeqwyn's Fix List, and never use run-on sentences because they're bad.

And now, practically correct:

Firstly, I know that we fixed a few bugs because Maegwyn made me a lovely list which I will post at the end of this paragraph, which is not a run-on sentence. Run-on sentences are bad because someone taught me it was bad at some time in English, but all I remember is that run-on sentences make Moglins lose ears, which is a complete myth. Therefore, you shouldn't worry about run-on sentences, even though you should avoid them because they are bad. I wonder how many words are in this non-run-on sentence, even though I'm making a joke about run-on sentences. However, it still seems as if I should be concerned about the word count because it's looking like a giant paragraph right now, even though that thought is absurd, for I have not used a single period so far. Anyways, here is Maegwyn's Fix List:
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 37
3/10/2010 14:54:17   
Terosin
Member

Check out the small Sneak Peek from Warlic: Blade Haven!
Post #: 38
3/10/2010 18:02:01   
neodiabolus
Member

I have to say... it looks quite awesome.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 39
3/20/2010 12:22:37   
wolfencreek
Member

yeah it looks sweet i wonder if it will be upgraded people only???
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 40
3/22/2010 13:54:57   
Vampire Fexy
Member

Korin just made a starship, MQ Ship Concept, and It's for an NPC that should be getting debuted this Friday he said.

< Message edited by Vampire Fexy -- 3/22/2010 14:02:37 >


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AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 41
3/22/2010 14:33:05   
Fyreshadow
Member

Nerf is too epic fo show.
DF MQ  Post #: 42
3/22/2010 15:24:31   
Ganden
Member

New Starship? New NPC? Mesa smell something...

Blues is the only major MQ staff member that hasn't been added, but he doesn't seem like the type that would use a ship. There is the mysterious Cysero object referenced in DF, but that wouldn't explain the new NPC, at least not entirely... J6 is already added... Artix? He's still missing, and moderately important.

Or, I suppose, and original char. And then there's the Jemini person Korin keeps referencing on his youtube channel, and even seems to have an NPC head drawn for on one of his videos...

*Is suspicious.*

-Tolan

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we need more people who tell it like it should be.
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MQ  Post #: 43
3/22/2010 15:44:16   
  Korin
Breaking Things


Jemini will be appearing here and there in the near future. Then she'll have a big role in the future. The face in the youtube video you spoke of is her AQW character.

And finally, the new NPC is new.
MQ  Post #: 44
3/22/2010 15:53:37   
Drake Amatsu
Member

To my knowledge, I remember seeing Korin on Facebook too. That's about all I know about Korin though. I've seen tons of staff on Twitter. It's like their base of operations. Well Happy Birthday to those with Birthdays that have already occurred or are about to occur.
Post #: 45
3/22/2010 16:32:35   
neodiabolus
Member

Hm... is it just me, or does the ship look strangely like a cross between the U.S.S. Reliant from Star Trek and a boat?

Pic of Reliant: http://www.salute.co.uk/images/uss_reliant.jpg
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 46
3/27/2010 0:09:42   
Terosin
Member

Jemini has graduated college with a Bachelor's of Fine Arts degree!

Congratz and good luck ..hihi..
Post #: 47
3/29/2010 13:42:33   
Jemini
Legendary AdventureGuide!


Thanks! :)
Post #: 48
3/29/2010 13:48:01   
megakyle777
Member

Congratulations!
DF  Post #: 49
3/29/2010 17:07:58   
Rozion
Member

Congratz, Jemini!
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 50
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