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8/31/2011 20:18:59   
Ello
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Algern's Carapace




Here (info submission thanks to Dev)




This is the thread in which to discuss comparisons between the new items and others. Unlike guide-like threads created via Comparison Posting you are not required to lay out comparisons in a formal manner in here. But remember - because you'll have read the forum rules of course - do not ask questions here like "what's best for me" / "which is the better weapon" - this is not a Question & Answer forum. Nor is it a general game discussion forum. Only post if you have something useful and relevant to add / discuss.

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8/31/2011 20:31:03   
Edgemaster Scion
Constructive!


Geez, that's a pretty big bonus for being bound to a single element. If only there was a level 105 version or something around there...
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 2
8/31/2011 20:35:01   
dragonmasterz
Member

Assuming 83 AMD with Pure Warrior Build and 100% Resistances with CIT:

Irolustres's Eviscerating Claw: 1063.963 531.968

The damage is just insane!


< Message edited by dragonmasterz -- 8/31/2011 21:06:30 >
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8/31/2011 20:49:56   
Dev
The Reckoning


Silly dragonmaster, you accidentally put in 2 hits.

quote:

With everything rolled in (total, not per hit):


The correct number at 100% resists w/ 83 AMD Pure Warrior should be 531.574, which is still ridiculous considering the circumstances.
AQ AQW  Post #: 4
8/31/2011 20:55:15   
Ello
Member

Might be obvious but I felt I should post this. Generally the monster you would want to use this against are standard darkness monsters. By that I mean darkness/fire/energy monsters with something like 75% Darkness Resist. Due to the compensation bonus he may have 75% resist but with the bonus its like your effectively attacking a monster with 150% Resist. Of course you can work around that by bringing Scrambler beams with you and stuff but the best use of the armor is a standard darkness/fire/energy monster. Because of this I suggest bringing scrambler beam if you plan to own this armor and don't already own Nemesis. Because there are darkness monsters out there with non-"standard" aka extreme resist. By that I mean 0% or even worse -200% Resist.

Note: I'm probably using the terms "standard" and extreme resist wrong or loosely.

Edit: Forgot to include fire and energy monsters but I personally prefer UG for those monsters.

< Message edited by Ello -- 8/31/2011 22:02:28 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 5
8/31/2011 21:03:12   
dragonmasterz
Member

@Dev I did do it as a total but accidently had my darkness Resistence set to 200% from another comparison Lol I knew that sounded kinda sily.

Thanks for correcting:D

< Message edited by dragonmasterz -- 8/31/2011 21:06:01 >
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8/31/2011 21:03:38   
Dev
The Reckoning


Ah, that would do it as well. Either way, glad we got it sorted out!
AQ AQW  Post #: 7
8/31/2011 21:08:57   
sol1tud3
Member

the armor seems to have okay fire and energy res, I see a possible use against those monster types
newer monsters should have okay dark res, but older ones would just have ridiculous ice/water res such that you wouldn't want to attack with other elements
otherwise, it's down to scrambler beam, quite the strategic armor

off topic: would like to see a video of Algern vs wolfwing, nightbane, and some other strong darkness monsters out there

btw, what lean does this armor have? either the info subs doesn't have it or I've missed it

< Message edited by sol1tud3 -- 8/31/2011 21:12:43 >
AQ  Post #: 8
8/31/2011 21:22:44   
dragonmasterz
Member

^
quote:

-5 bth, so *85/80 to compensate.


I find it quite useful against your typical strong Fire/Energy Monsters. Now I can easily Beat Thunder Lion (2) without having to use potions/healing spells.

< Message edited by dragonmasterz -- 8/31/2011 21:24:37 >
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8/31/2011 21:25:38   
  afterlifex

X of the AQ Q&A/EC/BS


^ I think he means, defensive, mid-offensive, fully offensive ect..
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 10
8/31/2011 21:28:39   
dragonmasterz
Member

^lol I miss understood. Thats still a mystery since it has the damage boosting effect. I'm betting my money on Mid-defensive.

< Message edited by dragonmasterz -- 8/31/2011 21:39:26 >
AQ  Post #: 11
8/31/2011 21:37:44   
Frostmourne
Member
 

By the amount of resistances that the armor covers I'd go with mid defensive.
AQ  Post #: 12
8/31/2011 21:40:51   
dragonmasterz
Member

I accidently wrote Mid-Offensive instead of Mid-Defensive. Corrected.

I should double check my messages more often 0_o
AQ  Post #: 13
8/31/2011 22:14:42   
  In Media Res
Perfectly Legal Art Dealer


There's no lean -- it's neither offensive nor defensive.
AQ  Post #: 14
8/31/2011 22:17:56   
gold
Member

I thought people would notice there's no lean on it :/ The info subs clearly state there's no lean.

And its stats offense-wise are very similar to Nemesis' Testament, and from that, one would assume it has no lean just like Nemesis' Testament.


< Message edited by gold -- 8/31/2011 22:18:24 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 15
8/31/2011 23:00:10   
sol1tud3
Member

@above
just saw that statement in subs, I need to pay more attention

and did I just see a 104 added to the subs? I thought there wasn't one...
AQ  Post #: 16
8/31/2011 23:02:55   
Edgemaster Scion
Constructive!


^They just added it. I'll have to say thanks to the programmers.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 17
8/31/2011 23:35:39   
sol1tud3
Member

Thanks for the 104 version, bought it along with scrambler beacon
first test subject, Ultra Akriloth Dragon (165% dark, scrambled)
results are good

with same dark res as scourges tenet I may replace it when I aint fighting anything ice

edit: armor's default dark sword + weapon special = (animation wise)

< Message edited by sol1tud3 -- 8/31/2011 23:50:06 >
AQ  Post #: 18
9/1/2011 1:20:45   
BruceTrigit
Member

i would only buy the armor for its resistances
and attack with flashlight , frozen dinner and the new flying fish
AQ  Post #: 19
9/1/2011 1:21:23   
LazyVista
Member
 

wow a 80% damage boost for being darkness only?
seems kind of overpowered , no?

you can use it on a darkness monster with 70% resistance and it will deal the same damage as if it was 130% resistance o-o

< Message edited by LazyVista -- 9/1/2011 1:26:04 >
Post #: 20
9/1/2011 2:15:27   
el willo
Member

I dont think the percentages are added up. 1.8*0.7=1.26 or 126%. But yes, super powerful...
AQ  Post #: 21
9/1/2011 3:14:11   
dethpheonix13
Member

dang this armor is BEAST! this is the first item to motivate me to take the time to beat wolfwing (450).

anyone know the best time to beat wolfwing (450) cuz i just beat the snot out of him with this armor.
Post #: 22
9/1/2011 4:58:56   
stratuscone
Member

I see it is incredibly powerful for a no-lean armor, perhaps a temporary replacement for those warriors who do not own Nemesis/ who have scrambler beams
AQ DF  Post #: 23
9/1/2011 5:39:28   
Sqwall
Member

Now i don't wanna see any more comments like "I won't buy it because it is not an MC".Now we can clearly see EXACTLY how good a non MC armor can be...
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 24
9/1/2011 10:11:14   
kyogre40
Member

How is the lv 104 version comparing to lv 105 antiguardian?
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