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12/20/2012 17:02:39   
Legendium
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A queen can rule like a king, but so long as she is female, she is a queen. It doesn't matter what the traditional role says. Any ruler like a king that is female is a queen. Tropes shouldn't be believed. 'Nuff said.

And anyways, it's been said a gazillion times now. There will be no old characters.

Alteon won't make any appearance. Nor will Drakath, for that matter, nor Ash either.
Artix himself said that this game will be full of fresh faces. I don't expect there to be any of the characters from any of the other games.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 301
12/20/2012 18:29:15   
Red Komet
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Well we still need some female Kings also if you want some new faces here they are also some new ideas

Demon King Arc

Arc is The Daughter of a Tyrent King her Father got killed by a Female Knight Known as Arteom and however The laws that say a queen can't rule but it does not specify that a king must be male so The Female Knight Arteom became King Arteom but Arc does not take it well so she decided to look for an artifact only to find a coffin when she opens it she found a Purple Demon Eye The Demon Eye revealed itself to be King of All Demons, Arc decided to make a Deal with The King and Then The Demon King merged with Arc and they transform to Demon King Arc a Demon that has Purple Flamed Demon Wings, Grey and Purple Armor and has a Demon Eye on Her Chest also she has a Grey and Purple Helmet with epic horns and a third eye her weapon is a Purple Demon Trident as for her powers she can use white light as well as purple fire she can even transform people to purple demons, anyway Demon King Arc decided to take over lore but some hero named Lance decided to Fight Demon King Arc but Demon King Arc Transforms to a Purple Dragon and they fight then Lance decided to stab Arc but Lance's Weapon merged with Arc's Heart and it became The Dragonslight then other parts of Demon King Arc scatter the remnants of her actual body take on Forms of Their Own and can think two and have their own plans as for what happend to Arch's Brain it possessed some White Robes after The Battle and became some figure in white robes

Also Arc's name comes from a Japanese word for "evil" known as aku.

Shiro

A White Robe Figure who will sell Demon Weapons also Shiro's Robes have a white glow also Shiro has a blank white mask also Shiro is female

Lance/Verserker

After defeating Demon King Arc he placed his sword in the temple and he is crippled never to fight again and he lost a person he loves until a white robe figure shows up and gives him a Demon Sword called The Mecrotic Blade of Death(The sword will have a skull on its hilt) and then Lance became an Evil White Demon Knight called Verserker and Verserker is Grimsbane's Rival

Deathgore

A Dracolich that is manifested from Demon King Arc's Bones Verserker found this Dracolich and it became his pet

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From dorkinshmorkin

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Well here is an idea on Grimsbane's Past Gimsbane use to be some sweet elf kid until a White and Gold Corrupt Church killed his family



I like that idea. It gives him a good motive to want all light dead, as light destroyed his family. It also gives the church an opportunity to become a bigger bad at the end of the storyline, which I like because hidden evil in things commonly associated with good is something you never see in any AE games.

It also gives us a reason to choose either grimsbane's side or the "good side", as both have good reasons for fighting the other side. And both sides make great enemies of the other. As in, whichever side you choose, you are still the good guy, and the other side is still the bad guy.

From Red Komet

Grimsbane's Armor will be more evil looking and The Armor is Shiny Platinum(Like Megatran from Transformers Prime) and his armor also has a red cape and Red Eyes


Also Grimsbane's Weapon is a Light Demon Weapon and Grimsbane decided to use light to destroy light and how he found it lets just say it came from a corps of a strong light demon also The Weapon can also shoot a blast of strong light

Verserker's Army

Verserker has an Undead Army dressed in white

Tizo

Grimsbane's Adviser Tizo is said to have manifested from Demon King Arc's Left Eye

Sir Dragobane

A Female Knight that serves King Arteom She will also act as one of your Good Mentors

Hamster Monster Pet

A pet you will find at The Pet Shop

Papillon Mask

You will buy The Butterfly Mask at a shop

Oni Mask

You will buy an Oni Mask at a Shop

< Message edited by Red Komet -- 12/21/2012 2:26:36 >
Post #: 302
12/20/2012 18:53:17   
Xeonas
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Another thing. I want to have evolving items. For instance, you get an egg. After doing a quest of after a period of time, the egg hatches. It starts out as a baby. by doing quests, a time lapse, or leveling up, it grows into an adult.


This sounds pretty good. It would be cool if there were things other than creatures that evolved. Just think about it: A dagger that grows into a sword!
Post #: 303
12/20/2012 22:44:35   
Red Komet
Member

Here are some Ideas

Here is an idea on Mid Final Armors

The Good Armor will have The Divine Black and Gold Colors and looks like a good guy armor as for The Helmet it will have golden wings

The Evil Armor will have The Deathly colors of White and Red also The Armor is Shiny on light locations and has skulls also it glows in dark areas also The Armor has an evil looking helmet

As for the white and gold items thous items will only be used by a mage hunting group dressed in white and gold called The Order of The Blades

Also you have to kill The Mage Hunters to get The White and Gold Stuff

As for Good and Evil The Items will have no elemental theme

Instead The Good Armors will be Silver and Knight Based while The Evil Armors have be dark green knight themed with horns and spikes

Here is an Idea on a Viking Zone

You will meat characters based off of The Norse Gods also The Character Based off of Heimdall will be brown like some movie depiction of him also you will meet a pink haired girl based off of Loki also she pretends to be nice and is actually mean and likes to play pranks on you also the quest line will have you fighting frost giants

Four Knights of Apocalypse

There will be four Knights of Apocalypse

Knight of Death-Female: The Knight of Death will serve The Role of being The AQ3D Death her Human form is an Albino in a Black Dress while her Knight of Apocalypse form is close to The Depiction of Death but her weapon is a large, double-headed battleaxe with a pair of rounded blade she has four black bird wings also in her Knight of Apocalypse Form she is a skeleton wearing Black and Purple Robes also The Knight of Death will serve as a bonus Boss

The Knight of War-Male: He will be a war monger in Red Armor also The Knight of War will be mind controlled by an unknown villain and will serve as just The First Major Boss of The Story(Also note that you have to defeat Mini Bosses Before Fighting Him)

The Knight of Famine-Male: A Knight in Black and Yellow Armor He serves as a Side Quest Boss

The Knight of Conquest-Female: She will serve a Major Role after The Grimsbane Arch mainly a Chapter II one also The Knight of Conquest is The Outright Evil Member of The Four Knight of Apocalypse mainly she is a knight that deceives people also she will serve as The Chapter II Antagonist as for what she looks like she is the most beautiful and her armor motif is white birds also she has The Power of White Light

As for The Female Death well there are depictions of Death being Female

King Akuma

King Akuma is The Tyrant King and Father of Arc(Who later becomes Demon King Arc) he rules all of Lore he is the most vile and evil of tyrants he tortures his slaves and taxes his people Until a Knight Named Arteom defeated him in battle

Also note that Akuma is Japanese for Devil also Akuma is The Last Name which would make Arc's Last Name Akuma which would translates Arc Akuma as Evil Devil

King Arteom

King Arteom is The Good King of Lore she also has a sister named Morgan

Nuldred

There is a Homunculus of King Arteom called Nuldred she is told to hide her statues as being an offspring of King Arteom also she is a Knight of The Round Order She protected the way of the knights working hard daily in being the ideal knight all while hiding her dislike of others In the end, even that innocence was shattered by Morgan, who revealed the secrets of her birth She learned of her parentage and was told that the King didn't know either. Morgan tried to instill that the King would never accept such a filthy child, but she was, while shocked, wrapped in joy. She went without having the slightest feelings of rebellion, spurred on by the truth, and approached the King with delight. but Arteom rejected her very clearly. She said that, while Nuldred is certainly born from her and her sister's plotting, that she will not recognize Nuldred as her as her daughter or give her the throne. the distrust of Round Order towards the King spread, and the reigns of power in The Kingdom of Lore were seized once the King departed for the some expedition Nuldred became the leader of the rebellion called The Metal Onslaught, representing the national discontent towards Arteom then After the King finally returned from a long and tiresome battle, Nuldred raged, claiming that she hated the King and that only she was fit for the throne. Resulting from that, the distrust of The truth of the matter was that she only wanted to be accepted by Arteom and wanted to be called daughter by her and then some Epic War Started

Arteom Vs Nuldred War

In this War you will side with King Arteom or Nuldred

New Demon King

A Demon Girl and daughter of Demon King Arc unlike her mother She choose to become a Good Demon King instead of an Evil One like her mother as for what she looks like she has purple hair has black horns also she is dressed in purple with some black on her cloths also some of her subject actually hated the idea of a good demon king and wanted to bring back the original demon king while her other subjects like the idea of a Good Demon King and you will do quest for her to bring a treaty for Demons and The People of Lore

Also how Arc has a teenage Daughter well she is created from Arc to be her heir to the throne but did not expect her to be good

Avoid Hades Shaded

Also the game should avoid making the bad guys hades shaded since a villain being hades shaded can lead to Unfortunate Implications

Bellow: Well its mostly black with just some parts being gold

< Message edited by Red Komet -- 12/23/2012 22:15:37 >
Post #: 304
12/23/2012 15:32:22   
I am Fade
Member
 

 i don't mean to stop your creative flow, but it seem like these idea are generic and sort of vague. its been discussed before that good and evil have been done excessivel. Also im dont really understand what you mean when you say that good armors should have a gold and knight theme. what is knight? you mean like armor that knights wear?


another thing i'd like to say is about all the character ideas. i feel like saying who a NPC will be related too and what "side" the npc supports forces the game design crew to add all, and not just one of the ideas.
Maybe it would be good to try and describe how the npc behave twards others, and their opinions of the game world and events.



that all being said. i do like the idea of haveing connected npcs, and possibly quests from one npc that will allow more dialog with others.
sorry if im harping, or interrupting a story your were spinning.
AQW  Post #: 305
12/23/2012 18:01:29   
Red Komet
Member

Here are Class and Order ideas

Paladin Order

The Paladin Order of AQ3D will act like the same undead slaying people we know and love but the paladins of AQ3D have a more grim origin on their powers The Paladin light weapons and armors came from the souls of their prisoners The Most Dangerous Criminals who are on death row have their souls becoming part of The Paladins Armors and Weapons and they use Criminal Souls to slay undead like some times the forces of good will sacrifice criminals to gain powers

Necromancers

Necromancers of AQ3D are The Masters of The Dead we know and love but there are Necromancers who respect the dead and bond with their undead while there are some who use them as slaves mainly Necromancers have two factions ones who respect and bonded with their undead and the ones who enslave the undead

Angelo Knights

The Angelo Knights are warriors that serve The Paladin Order, The Angelo Knights are artificial Angels that are created by Merging Demon Blood(Mainly The Blood of a Demon that looks like an Angel) with A Paladin and there are also some Angelo Knights that are corrupted by their power that they betray The Paladin Order also there are some Paladins who join forces with The Renegade Angelo Knights

Also note that the renegade angelo knights and paladins keep their light powers

Demon Knights

Knights that makes a contract with Demons to become demonic warriors also the Demon Knights can choose to be Good or Evil and there are some who are part of The New Demon King's Army and that the ones who serve The New Demon King are dressed in purple armor
Post #: 306
12/24/2012 10:39:33   
gamer rulez
Member

@red komet those classes idea seems good but i have some thing that confused me.

1.i never heard of this necro that bond with the undead most of the necro that i know treat the undead like slave.
2.how come the paladin and the angelo knights sound so dark and evil it somehow sounded so wrong.

i got no confusion on the demon knights but the only thing is it seems strange for the armor to be purple i prefer black armored with a red trim
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 307
12/24/2012 11:17:53   
Demit
Member

In terms of classes, I personally think AQ3D should stick with having just FOUR (or five) base classes that split into different tiers. Of course you should be able to easily switch classes like in other AE games, but you'd have to start from the bottom tier of the new class, if you've never used it before. Sort of like AQW, but basically with all classes tiered. I don't think you should really continue with the huge number of classes like in AQW, though. Focus on a few and make them the best :P

P.S. Scrap good and evil, it didn't really work in AQW...

< Message edited by Demit -- 12/24/2012 11:18:42 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 308
12/24/2012 11:35:46   
Legendium
Member

@Demit

I think that the idea with only the original classes being available isn't too good. But the getting rid of good and evil is.

The reason I want different classes that are available for everyone is because it's fun. But they should be hard to get, and even then, you still need to work it up to a better point with better skills. For instance, when you gain the class from the trainer, you have only the base attack. The trainer proceeds to teach you two skills. The rest you learn as the game progresses, by finding scrolls in the middle of nowhere, or by simply gaining one or two when you level up.

Problem of the "easy extra classes" from AQWs solved.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 309
12/24/2012 12:12:22   
dorkinshmorkin
Member

I'd prefer classes to be as rare as armors are in dragonfable. The game seems to have enough classes that it isn't boring and they can give a lot of skills, but not so much as to overwhelm the staff and make the classes sloppy and full of bugs.
Post #: 310
12/24/2012 12:40:05   
Legendium
Member

@Dorkinshmorkin

Well, I based my idea off Dragonfable. Only the classes should be even more hard to find, so that they're something special.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 311
12/24/2012 12:54:14   
Red Komet
Member

@gamer rulez: Well Eucliwood Hellscythe from Is This a Zombie? is pretty much a necromancer that respected her undead a

Also The Demon Knights who are part of the The New Demon King's army are Purple while the ones who are not part of The Army can choose their colors

And sometimes their can be necessary evil like using The Souls of Death Row Criminals as weapons to defeat The Undead

< Message edited by Red Komet -- 12/25/2012 12:41:50 >
Post #: 312
12/24/2012 12:57:16   
Demit
Member

@Legendium

Sticking to a few tiered classes would ensure a much higher level of balance. Plus, they could have ALOT more skills, allowing you to customize it however you want. And it's not like there'll be only four/five classes. If they branch off properly, you could see 8/10 then 16/20 classes, with top tier ones being the strongest. And again, I think you should be able to rank up multiple classes at once, and, for example, a mage could become a necromancer after a certain level and a warrior can become a Paladin if they have some mage/healer levels. And they'll retain their old skills, but also have specialized skills. But if classes are that hard to get, there'll always be some sort of second currency shortcut, which I 'd rather not have.

DF has an okay number of classes, but a disappointing lack of tiered classes...
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 313
12/24/2012 12:59:56   
Legendium
Member

@Demit

I know, and I want both tiered classes and classes that you can just find.
Like classes that you can only get with codes from hero mart items or other game upgrades.

Actually, scratch that, we could go with simply extra skills from upgrades.
So only tiered classes works, but I still think a few non-tiered classes would be okay.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 314
12/24/2012 20:52:11   
truevillianofworlds
Member

I think at the start of character creation we shoudl have to choose between a Warrior, Mage, or Rouge. After that you can train any class you want and mix teh skills of different classes into your hotbar. Want to play as a Axe Master but want to shoot fire from your fingertips? You can! IT would be like Skyrim.

Also: Books are a great way to get people into Lore. Read about wars and events.

< Message edited by truevillianofworlds -- 12/24/2012 20:54:15 >
Post #: 315
12/25/2012 6:12:04   
Legendium
Member

@Truevillain

I dunno. Being able to mix and match skills would make things end up like hero smash: everyone having the most powerful skills.
I think sticking to character trees would be the best. Not to say that certain classes can't use parts of the other classes. A warrior could shoot an arrow just as well as a rouge, just like rouges could know enough of fire magic to light their arrow up. I just think mix and match ends up ruining gameplay. But that's just my opinion.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 316
12/25/2012 10:46:34   
Orandulum
Member

Hey, I couldn't find any legitimate place to put this as the old FAQ thread was locked, but how are players notified of an upcoming test for AQ3D?
Post #: 317
12/25/2012 10:51:33   
Legendium
Member

@Orandulum

We don't know yet when the next test will be, but they say they're working on combat. And most questions should go here.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 318
12/25/2012 12:07:39   
Orandulum
Member

Thanks :)
Post #: 319
12/28/2012 3:02:38   
Red Komet
Member

Maybe ad a Bird Helmet with a Halo
Post #: 320
12/28/2012 9:31:51   
Nicolas Flamel
Member
 

 - Trade system: Including items no matter rare or acs, trade class, and probably money

- Banking system: since this game head to the older players, i think we need bank like to rent money

Post #: 321
12/29/2012 14:01:29   
Red Komet
Member

Here is a New Idea on Races as well as some new features

Winged Race(A race of Humanoids with Bird Wings they are considered a Bad Omen that represent misfortune and death that most of the other races shun them and that some of The Winged Race become slaves or peasants)

Human(Humans are pretty much the same as any fantasy setting)

Elf(The Elves are the most noble and rich and are they are most higher of the races)

Dwarf(They dig for gold and are one of The Most Riches Races like The Elves)

Goblin(They are Short and Green like The Classic Goblin there are also Goblins who will serve as a High Master of an Order of Knights that have powers)

Orc(They serve as warriors also orcs use to be slaves of The Trolls)


Here is an idea of Status you start out as a peasant you then decide to work as a mercenary and if you are proven to be a great mercenary you will gain the status of noble(and yes you can even be a Orc Noble or Goblin Noble) also if your character is a member of The Winged Race that gains noble status some nobles will try to send assassins to try to assassinate you but you can try to kill the nobles who try to kill you

As for personality you can choose to make your character a Hot Blooded hero or a Stoic Wise Hero

< Message edited by Red Komet -- 12/29/2012 14:57:11 >
Post #: 322
12/29/2012 15:28:23   
dorkinshmorkin
Member

I don't want the generic fantasy races. I want unique ones. I dislike dwarves and orcs, but I don't mind elves. I think if we were to have races, they would have to be very human-like, so the staff doesn't have to remodel the armor and helmet for the race. Maybe the same races as Warpforce: humans, drakel, and elves.

As for social classes, that seems like a cool idea. Though I don't think a mercenary would become a noble. Maybe it could be medieval social classes: peasant > knight > vassal (lesser lord) > noble. You change your social class through special quests from the city church (read below) that raise your "publicity".

Something I think would make this game unique is to have no monarch at all. Instead a council that leads the religion runs everything, kind of like during the medieval times when the pope had a higher status than the kings of the areas, except in this case it is more than one person.


< Message edited by dorkinshmorkin -- 12/29/2012 15:40:09 >
Post #: 323
12/29/2012 16:02:29   
Red Komet
Member

Well I prefer the monarch doing the knighting to noble and also there are stories that have the mercenary become a noble
Post #: 324
12/29/2012 18:35:18   
truevillianofworlds
Member

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As for personality you can choose to make your character a Hot Blooded hero or a Stoic Wise Hero


We should get rid of this whole universal of calling our character the Hero. if we get to choose our alignment of Good or Evil we should get to earn title of the alignment. The NPC's shoudl call us by our characters name or by our chosen title. I don't want to save the world, I want to rule it.
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