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2/23/2013 10:45:57   
kosmo
Member
 

 A tank build and a well timed yeti' s chomp and emp(skill or core) are the right counter.It s all about strategy.
Epic  Post #: 26
2/23/2013 10:51:59   
Winters Key
Member

@kosmo agreed.
EDIT: Fixed Typo.

< Message edited by Winters Key -- 2/23/2013 10:52:55 >
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 27
2/23/2013 11:21:21   
ansh0
Member

You should not be forced to buy expensive gear to counter ONE set.


quote:

Well next one... hmm I'm out of ideas.


Passive core: Win the battle before it starts.

< Message edited by ansh0 -- 2/23/2013 11:23:24 >
Epic  Post #: 28
2/23/2013 13:40:42   
psycho009
Member
 

 maybe they should add some sound instead of these broken weapons.. so much for closing the gap eh

< Message edited by psycho009 -- 2/23/2013 13:47:34 >
Post #: 29
2/23/2013 13:47:13   
....SKY....
Member

sorry this doesnt make sense. yes you pay for the promos with buying the 10000 varium pack so not too sure what u are talking about
Post #: 30
2/24/2013 1:50:42   
RageSoul
Member

IIRC , Cores are supposed to give you an aid in battle , NOT a guaranteed win .

( BTW , there's a difference between getting aided and guaranteeing a win )

< Message edited by Lord Aegis -- 2/24/2013 1:55:00 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 31
2/24/2013 2:51:26   
theholyfighter
Member

PROMOTIONAL ITEMS SHOULD NOT GIVE GUARANTEE WINS.
AQW Epic  Post #: 32
2/24/2013 8:07:14   
Lord Machaar
Member

@Ansh0

Haha that's right.
MQ Epic  Post #: 33
2/24/2013 16:06:58   
Nightmarefang
Member

Going to be honest, I was never really bothered by the promotional stuff until the recent "balance" update... I felt like I had a chance, things were better since more resistance (usually the people i face with the azrael promos are tech mages...) and I could do more damage -> more health gain but now? now I think I'm done with ED for a while :| to oversoul!
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 34
2/24/2013 17:11:33   
Shadronica
Member

Yes, once again ED has lost the plot.

It looked like Omega was the dawning of a brand new exciting chapter for EpicDuel. A fresh new approach.

Nobody minded the varium gap being closed a little, but to bring out another set of OP weapons for the princely sum of $50 is somewhat a slap in the face to the intelligence of ED's player base.

The players that have paid to buy these weapons rightfully feel that they should have the winning edge considering the amount of money they paid.

So once again they have brought back the old "pay to win".

Everyone realizes and understands that the game has to generate money, but it is the marketing strategy that needs a huge overhaul.

EpicDuel seems to be left in the "Dark Ages" when it comes to marketing.

They would do far better with this game if varium products were in smaller chewier chunks rather than the "all you can eat buffet" which only lasts till the next time the game wants/needs to generate income.

I could only wish and hope that "someone" in our administration could do some research on the marketing of the more popular games out there. Then we would have a more "playable" EpicDuel in which we have all seen the potential.

In no way do I wish to offend anyone with my remarks but I can't help but offer my sincerest honest opinion.







DF AQW Epic  Post #: 35
2/24/2013 18:40:35   
DestruRaGe
Member

Answering your question Ansh0:
No, ED shouldnt have OPed cores. Luckily it doesnt have any!
Those that are sad about azraels promo cores: Just cause you cant defeat something with your stat abusing build
doesnt mean that its OPed. Theres builds for every class that can counter these cores. And thats good!
Seems to me like you wanna be OP and undefeatable and when something new comes out that
requires you to change strategy you complain how OP it is and game breaking.
Epic  Post #: 36
2/24/2013 19:05:00   
....SKY....
Member

completely agree with the above. hey i cant beat a skill core or build cause i cant be bothered looking for a counter instead i will just complain on the forums and expect ed to nerf it. at the end of the day if ed doesnt meet our f2ps demand we will complain this is a crappy game and we will threaten ed to quit playing. LMAO.
Post #: 37
2/24/2013 20:50:18   
Lycan.
Member

either they nerf it now or wait for more people to buy it then nerf so that more people realize they wasted $50 for an awful skill core.
Epic  Post #: 38
2/24/2013 20:56:13   
xxmirxx
Member
 
quote:

REcently, I have noticed that promotional items have been getting WAY more powerful than they should be.

Namely...

Platinums Pride and the new Azrael promos.


Together, words cannot express how broken they are.

Here's a scenario:

Enters battle.

Uses buff to defend oneself.

*aux special*

It's ok I have my best move ready.

*gun special*

*gets blocked*

Damn, atleast I can rage kill him.

*Chairmans Fury*

Dead.

with out those cores no would have even brought pomo's and as i remember dev's did say pomo's and varium weps would better but non varium do need better skill cores like one for gun is joke honestly.
AQ Epic  Post #: 39
2/24/2013 22:29:11   
ansh0
Member

So I should change my build everytime I wanna deafeat them?

Uh-uh.

quote:

f2ps


I have varium. I am not a f2p complaining.


Jeez.... how many times do I have to say this?

< Message edited by ansh0 -- 2/24/2013 22:33:08 >
Epic  Post #: 40
2/25/2013 16:00:44   
Nightmarefang
Member

I shouldn't have to spend a huge sum of credits or blow a bunch of varium to buy a yeti to eat every azrael gun and bazooka I see besides, lets say I just changed my build, than I'll lose to the half of the people who didn't spend $50 recently...
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 41
2/26/2013 7:27:09   
zion
Member

I hope anyone buying them for pay-to-win is going for golden yeti, b/c it will be nerfed or outclassed b4 u can say "next promo please"!
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 42
2/26/2013 8:16:48   
Lord Noonien Soong
Member

still think Platinum's pride is pretty cool ;D
DF  Post #: 43
2/26/2013 9:42:03   
kosmo
Member
 

 What about if the Arzel' s Will was on aux(with a turn of cooldown) and the Arzel' s Torment was on gun?You still have your cores but people is not forced anymore to use builds completely based on countering these weps.

< Message edited by kosmo -- 2/26/2013 9:43:59 >
Epic  Post #: 44
2/26/2013 16:41:31   
xxDantExx
Member

well guyz, about the whinnings & complaints about OP and buying varium stuffs...
...just put yourselves in the devs' shoes... making the game... enduring long hours of sleepless days & nights just to make this game running..
most people who complains are those playing ' FOR FREE "...
have you not considered what the developers need to make the game running...
to pay for the staffs of their sites who works just to satisfy ur FREE PLAYING NEEDS...

just think about it....
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 45
2/26/2013 16:44:10   
Ranloth
Banned


 Without free players, there wouldn't have been Varium players in the past either. Why buy Varium if you won't have advantage over anyone? Prior to Omega that is. People bought it to have an edge over F2P so they ARE needed in the game, that does NOT make their opinions pointless because they don't pay. They are as needed as Varium players.
Besides these free players can invite people to play. These can pay. If impression of the game is good (art, balance, gameplay, etc.), they will also pay. Every player is a potential customer so neglecting their opinion is not gonna help, only because they haven't paid anything yet.
AQ Epic  Post #: 46
2/26/2013 16:55:14   
Calogero
Member

Azrael is OPd...

Do tell me, The only strategy against the gun is the Yeti special, what about those that don't have the Yeti?
I felt like I got forced into buying them due to otherwise having a very low chance beating any of them...

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 47
2/26/2013 17:09:32   
xxDantExx
Member

of course, all players, varium or non-varium, users are not neglected.. that's why they made all the items purchasable by 2 choices.. either by varium or by credits...
and u can even edit the item stats for a low price...

if all of the players have just experienced beta phase they wud know that omega is way too better...
unlike in beta days where u will really need to buy items to satisfy the build that u wanted... and varium items had the bigger edge
and take note..no item stat edits @ that time...

AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 48
2/26/2013 19:10:38   
kosmo
Member
 

 xxDantE xx.Yes you had to buy a weapon to make a build based on stats, now you buy the only weapon that allows you make a certain build based on cores, in oreder to face who is doing the same thing.
Epic  Post #: 49
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