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8/15/2013 16:05:40   
  Dragoon23

Sanity? Hehe
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Dragon Busters (Updated)




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This is the thread in which to discuss comparisons between the new items and others. Unlike guide-like threads created via Comparison Posting you are not required to lay out comparisons in a formal manner in here. But remember - because you'll have read the forum rules of course - do not ask questions here like "what's best for me" / "which is the better weapon" - this is not a Question & Answer forum. Nor is it a general game discussion forum. Only post if you have something useful and relevant to add / discuss.

Threads created via the Comparison Posting forum (which then get moved to this Equipment Comparison forum once approved) normally remain on a permanent basis, whereas this =AQ= one is likely to be allowed to expire.
Post #: 1
8/15/2013 16:11:50   
dragonmasterz
Member

Can see it being useful for someone who doesn't want a full Dragon Blade inventory but still spends a decent amount of time farming essences/dragons. Though I'd imagine using 1 weapon for all fights would be kinda boring:/
AQ  Post #: 2
8/15/2013 17:13:54   
  Dragoon23

Sanity? Hehe
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Numbers? Numberz.

200Str/Dex/Luk. 153 FO Armor. 100% Resistance.

	86AMD.
495.2540	DB+RightElementDragon
486.5210	Buster+Dragon
464.4065	Buster+Dragonkin
462.9548	DB+WrongElementDragon
452.1884	DB+WrongElementDragonkin
441.7270	Custom+0%Proc+5BTH
420.1773	Buster+Untriggered
409.1228	DB+Untriggered

	96AMD.
437.6663	DB+RightElementDragon
430.5991	Buster+Dragon
411.0264	Buster+Dragonkin
409.1228	DB+WrongElementDragon
399.6084	DB+WrongElementDragonkin
393.7132	Custom+0%Proc+5BTH
371.8810	Buster+Untriggered
361.5504	DB+Untriggered


=((100+18+19+35-AMD)%*((16+30/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.15
=((100+19+19+35-AMD)%*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.1
=((100+19+19+35-AMD)%*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.05
=((100+18+19+35-AMD)%*((16+30/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.075
=((100+18+19+35-AMD)%*((16+30/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.05
=(100+19+19+35+5-AMD)%*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*85/90*1.09
=((100+19+19+35-AMD)%*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*0.95
=((100+18+19+35-AMD)%*((16+30/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*0.95

< Message edited by Dragoon23 -- 8/15/2013 17:35:48 >
Post #: 3
8/15/2013 21:54:51   
Dark Tyreal
Member

even with very good choices for earth weapons out right now, this weapon is still a very good choice for people with the tokens, since on top of it being able to compete with most earth weapons and only losing slightly to the very best, it basically compresses all the elemental dragon blades into one slot, only being about 2% weaker than each of their fully triggered form.
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 4
8/16/2013 3:29:42   
moe
Member

A few numbers to see how the dragon buster fairs out with current top earth weps:

86 AMD | 100% Resist | 200 STR/DEX/LUK
487.22
Giant Killer (T)
486.52 DragonBuster (T2)
464.41 DragonBuster (T1)
442.93 Giant Killer (UT)
438.98Frogzard Sword
420.18 DragonBuster (UT)

=((100+19+19+35-5-86)%*((29+6/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*85/80*1.09)*1.1
=((100+19+19+35-86)%*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.1
=((100+19+19+35-86)%*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.05
=((100+19+19+35-5-86)%*((29+6/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*85/80*1.09)
=((100+19+19+35-86)%*((16+31/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)
=((100+19+19+35-86)%*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*0.95

HeHe unlike in this thread where with 75 DEX the fully triggered buster beat triggered giant killer with 200 DEX the giant killer beats the fully triggered buster ^_^
AQW  Post #: 5
8/16/2013 3:34:56   
Rafiq von den Vielen
Member

I still like this weapon. Easy compression and I get to use some of my favorites, artwise. ^_^
Post #: 6
8/20/2013 12:53:19   
gold
Member

@moe: Realistically though, a Dragon has more AMD (typically 96), and I bet you Giant Killer's inaccurate lean makes it fall behind the Dragon Buster.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 7
8/20/2013 13:10:16   
moe
Member

Here you go gold ^_^

96 AMD | 100% Resist
559.779
Dragon Buster (T2)
556.143 Giant Killer (T)
534.334 Dragon Buster (T1)
511.827 Custom Sword +5 BtH
508.890 Custom Sword
505.586 Giant Killer (UT) / Custom Sword -5 BtH
505.076 Frogzard Sword
483.445 Dragon Buster (UT)

Custom Sword numbers:
=(((100+19+19+35+5-96)%*85/90)*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.3
=(((100+19+19+35-96)%)*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.3
=(((100+19+19+35-5-96)%*85/80)*((16+32/2)*6.99+35/2*13.87)*1.09)*1.3

Notes:
  • Just altered the numbers in my post above to 96 AMD ^_^ You're right gold the inaccuracy does make it suck >_>
    EDIT:
  • I changed the results to 130% Modifiers ^_^ Now I know it's only 8:30 PM but I want to resume my missed sleeping schedule and I am going to sleep >_> Goodnight folks ^_^




    < Message edited by moe -- 8/20/2013 13:29:31 >
  • AQW  Post #: 8
    8/20/2013 13:14:24   
    Trans
    ED Guest Writer


    You should also assume 130% Res, because Essences have 130% to the opposite Element.
    AQ DF Epic  Post #: 9
    8/20/2013 13:22:45   
    Dark Tyreal
    Member

    elemental modifiers dont change the result of the comparisons, since it just multiplies 1.3 to everything.
    AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 10
    8/20/2013 13:24:14   
    moe
    Member

    Dark T. is right ^_^ Adding 30% to everything would change nothing to the results however Trans is also right Dark T >_> I'm altering the results as the moment.
    AQW  Post #: 11
    8/20/2013 13:44:34   
    DarkDevil
    Member

    1 sword to rule dragons seems better than a whole inventory of dragonblades especially since not all monsters are dragons so weakening earth against anything else is better than weakening everything else to get a better bonus against dragons , the difference is just 5% which you will lose against anything else.

    anyway i am a beast mage so it is no use for me

    < Message edited by DarkDevil -- 8/20/2013 13:46:09 >
    AQ Epic  Post #: 12
    8/20/2013 14:07:42   
    ss2195
    Member

    I wish there were ranged versions of this update, like a peta dragon partisan...
    AQ AQW  Post #: 13
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