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4/10/2018 20:32:34   
Arcturus96
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It appears as if Seppy/Valen is doing his best to recover from his time as a Doom Knight. What has my interest is that he has also, it appears, retained some of his Doom Knight powers (not sure if this is due to his armor fusing to his body or something else) without his mind being given over to the Shadowscythe. I knew that, canonically, wearing this armor makes the wearer a virtual puppet for the will of the Shadowscythe, but isn't Seppy now a walking exception and example?
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4/10/2018 20:55:46   
Shadow X Ascendant
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Valen/Sep Retains some of DoomKnight Power, Because he absorbed all Doomed Essence in our Dragon after Calamity's Defeat.
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4/10/2018 21:00:30   
Greyor_42
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quote:

What has my interest is that he has also, it appears, retained some of his Doom Knight powers (not sure if this is due to his armor fusing to his body or something else) without his mind being given over to the Shadowscythe. I knew that, canonically, wearing this armor makes the wearer a virtual puppet for the will of the Shadowscythe, but isn't Seppy now a walking exception and example?


The armor didn't "fuse with him". It grew out of him. That's why he doesn't have any skin now. And his mind had been given over to the Shadowscythe, long before we had even met him. The only reason his mind is currently free right now, is because he no longer has the weapon consuming it(which is also the entire reason he had become a doom knight in the first place, because he had the weapon). As such, yes, he is indeed an example. However, he's not an example of possible exceptions, he's an example of how there are no exceptions. Not even the hero. Given enough time, the hero's canonical Doom Weapon will consume them as well, and there is no way around that, except for getting rid of said weapon.

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Valen/Sep Retains some of DoomKnight Power, Because he absorbed all Doomed Essence in our Dragon after Calamity's Defeat.


Other way around.

< Message edited by Greyor_42 -- 4/10/2018 21:01:12 >
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4/10/2018 21:27:16   
rater202
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@Greyor

Isn't the canon that a the Hero has either a Doom or Destiny Weapon?

Also, didn't his journal explicitly state that the remnants of the armor had merged into his body?
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4/10/2018 21:29:53   
Arcturus96
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@Greyor_42 hang on a minute, so the only thing that was corrupting him was the weapon? The armor was doing nothing to affect him at all?
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4/10/2018 21:34:14   
Luks
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However, he's not an example of possible exceptions, he's an example of how there are no exceptions.

Maybe, just maybe, the hero would succumb to the armor's influence, but in Sepulchure's case he has Gravelyn by his side while the hero has no one he truly holds dear in his heart.


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Not even the hero.

I'd die if there was a quest/cutscene about the hero using the armor and falling (or not) to its influence.

@Arcturus96
The MS had offered Valen the armor (maybe the blade was already included in the package since day one :P), the armor is what corrupts the wearer's soul, mind and body while the blade was to prevent him from straying from his mission.

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< Message edited by Occavatra -- 4/10/2018 23:10:12 >
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4/10/2018 21:51:02   
Shadow X Ascendant
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The Doom And Destiny Weapons are totally optional, for the hero, is just Light and Darkness weapons.
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4/10/2018 22:32:13   
dragon_monster
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No he is not an good exception because to get to have doom powers without being an puppet his sword had to be destroyed by someone other then him which freed him. As far as we know nobody can resist the doom and get doom.
Even the hero is affected by doom for 2 of the weapons at the highest level but he certainly did not got anything doomy besides the the power of the weapon. Honestly with the axe the hero might be the exception.
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4/10/2018 22:42:16   
Shadow X Ascendant
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This until the next upgrades of doom weapons come , if at level 66 they tell that the hero is slowing corrupting, just think at level 85 ones

< Message edited by Shadow X Ascendant -- 4/10/2018 22:49:27 >
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4/10/2018 22:45:29   
Greyor_42
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@Luks

quote:

The MS had offered Valen the armor (maybe the blade was already included in the package since day one :P), the armor is what corrupts the wearer's soul, mind and body while the blade was to prevent him from straying from his mission.


Incorrect. That is solely in AQW.

In DF's lore(which came first, actually), Valen found the sword, which promised him power, then proceeded to corrupt his mind, then his body. That is what caused the armor.


Staff has said time and again: Don't mix canon.

< Message edited by Greyor_42 -- 4/10/2018 22:48:10 >
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4/10/2018 22:53:57   
dragon_monster
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This until the next upgrades of doom weapons come , if at level 66 they tell that the hero is slowing corrupting, just think at level 85 ones

What if at level 85 it says the hero took the corruption as its own?
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4/10/2018 22:57:20   
Shadow X Ascendant
Member

well, after all, we will only discover once they are released...
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4/11/2018 23:22:24   
PurgeXZ
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Sepulchure was not in control of the armor or the blade, the Irismancer outright said that it was more like the armor was wearing Sepulchure as opposed to the other way around.
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