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10/6/2018 18:56:51   

Titan fights are unlikely because there would be less strategy possible. Everyone has the same skills. There is no using BSW, ranger, paladin, dragon lord.

Also you can't have accessories, show items, get effects etc

Basically too limited. There would only be one way to win which does not encourage experimentation and replay.

Edit: sniped

< Message edited by Kurtz96 -- 10/6/2018 18:57:03 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 76
10/6/2018 19:00:32   


the fact that Vaal's Ego keeps working even after defeating him in the Egomaniacs is really annoying (is that intended?).

Dove's explanation is that it's because Vaal isn't dead after he lets you win, so it'd make less sense for his ego to not still be there. And that his ego persisted even after death canonically.


Idk, I'd like to have some challenge fights with our dragons.
With the new skill set they have been given, the titan fights seem a bit too easy. Would be fun to have some major challenge fights, that aren't just absolute OVERKILL like hard mode Wargoth.

The problem with that is that challenges are intrinsically incompatible with Titan Fights, as there are exactly two skillsets you can use, one of which is a purely better version than the other, and there's nothing else you can really do with the dragons. Any fight you try to build around those skillsets will always end up being just another normal Titan Fight.
DF  Post #: 77
10/7/2018 0:43:40   
The ErosionSeeker
*insert cheesy pun here*

There is no egomaniac, only the faint sound of cluck cluck moo...
DF AQW  Post #: 78
10/7/2018 14:49:29   

TheErosionSeeker, what weapon is that?

And for DA-users, Epoch is a great choice for Vaal/Xan single fights.
DF  Post #: 79
10/8/2018 3:34:22   

At long last, i cleared it. It only took 8 tries to root Xan (I even had the scan orb to try cutting down his resistance). It took... IDK how many turns, I only know that the permanent fire debuff was dealing around 7000 damage.
I was using EPL with the same loadout as Sakurai, with the ultra omniknight blade being the only difference. Why did i struggle so hard?

< Message edited by steambin96 -- 10/8/2018 3:51:00 >
Post #: 80
10/8/2018 11:26:59   

You won using Epoch? How?
AQW  Post #: 81
10/8/2018 11:44:30   
Shadow X Ascendant

Use all Fire Resistance Gear , Frozen Claymore and use Stan The Scanorb to decrease they all resistance by 15. About Xan. Use FC special on him so he won't heal by ice. Let him be at 3000 HP. Stack Momentum. Use Timeshift for 9 rounds. Stack more 9 and use Laser Slice. Then use Punch-Stun. Now use Combo 1. Combo 2. Next round. Combo Final + Nuke. That should be enough to K.O Him .
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 82
10/8/2018 11:54:55   

I completely forgot about Stan!!!! I'm gonna use em for dominion challenges
AQW  Post #: 83
10/8/2018 12:17:46   
Shadow X Ascendant

I Doubt that's an good idead to bring Stan on Dominion Duo
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 84
10/8/2018 12:54:10   

Dudes, I've got every item from


(I used Forgotten Gloom Glaive : +13 All personally, but it's rare, so)
King Dragon Blade/Dirk/Staff of Diamonds/Spades : 15 Fire + 2 All [DC], King Blade/Dirk/Staff of Diamonds/Spades : 15 Fire
Hooded Greed : 15 Fire [DC], The Barons/Baroness Fearless Helm : 15 Fire [Seasonal, but available now!]
Puzzling Cards : 15 Fire + 2 All
Sundragon Pendant : 12 Fire Akriloth's Pendant instead was way easier to get
Jeweled Seal Ring of the Wall : 10 Fire
Voidwoven Belt : 10 Fire + 3 All
Elemental Unity Defender XV : 5 All [Special Offer], Mirror Eye : 10 Fire
Eternal Locket : 1 All [Special Offer], Legion Bracer : 1 All

Weapon: Check
Helmet: Check
Cape: Check
Accessories: Check

From all that items I could get (the bolded above) I got a total of +80 in Fire and +6 in All for a total of 86. Is it possible to get it upto 100?
AQW  Post #: 85
10/8/2018 13:05:31   

DF  Post #: 86
10/8/2018 13:15:51   

Here's the thing: I've used all those items but apparently voidwoven belt V is giving me +5 fire not +10? Is that a glitch?


Voidwoven Belt V
Tomix has made a belt for you from voiding remains. This item requires a Dragon Amulet.

Location: Crystoidator v.4
Price: N/A
Sellback: 230 Gold

Level: 75
Element: None
Bonuses: Block +1, Dodge +1, Parry +1, Crit +6, Magic Def +7, Pierce Def +7, Melee Def +9, WIS +5, END +8, LUK +5, INT +5, DEX +5, STR +5, Bonus +8, Immobility +3, All +3, Wind +6, Fire +10

Rarity: 6
Item Type: Belt
Equip Spot: Waist
Category: Armor

OkOk so I won individually but how am I gonna win against both of them? Used doomknight btw

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< Message edited by Gingkage -- 10/8/2018 15:07:11 >
AQW  Post #: 87
10/8/2018 17:21:27   
Chaosweaver Amon

@Shadow x Ascendant: Is the FC special on attack? Or does it work like it does on the Akriloth fight, where it automatically applies the special?
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 88
10/8/2018 17:32:00   

@Amon: FC is special on attack, but it requires a 5 percent chance to pull it off
Post #: 89
10/8/2018 18:37:45   

If you have Ultra Omniknight Blade (Level 90), you can get +19 all. I currently have 73 fire along with that, so that puts me at 92, overall.

< Message edited by andybaum005 -- 10/8/2018 19:37:37 >
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 90
10/8/2018 21:17:16   
Shadow X Ascendant

Yes it's on Attack . It not only Decrease enemy resistance to Ice by 100 for 50 Turns but also gives you +25 Fire Resistance for 50 Turns. That with all Fire resistance Gear will make Both Vaal And Xan heal you. Just watch out for the Resistance Sheatered of Vaal. Remembering that the Cap resistance for any Element is 80. More only with All Resistance. So 80 + 6 = 86 in total. +25 From Frozen Claymore Special = 111 . More than 100 = Heal.

< Message edited by Shadow X Ascendant -- 10/8/2018 21:21:07 >
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 91
10/9/2018 0:40:12   

Is the cap really 80?!?! May I ask why?
AQW  Post #: 92
10/9/2018 0:46:53   

Would the game be a challenge if you could completely resist any one element, much less all of them at once?

That's why individual ones are capped at 80 and All is capped at 50. You can stack individual ones with All, and any skills you use can also bring this up temporarily.

< Message edited by Gold -- 10/9/2018 0:47:44 >


I am Gold, for I am many.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 93
10/10/2018 0:32:06   

I'm a bit stuck on the duo...I can kill Vaal easily enough, but I can't kill Xan.

(I'm using Deathknight with the Frozen Claymore and stacking Fire resist btw)
Post #: 94
10/10/2018 9:19:47   
Shadow X Ascendant

Which classes you have @Theis? DeathKnight can't Kill Xan. It don't have an Nuke. Use Ascendant if you have. If not Use BSW, Epoch or Evolved Pumpking Lord .

< Message edited by Shadow X Ascendant -- 10/10/2018 9:40:46 >
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 95
10/13/2018 23:52:51   

wondering if someone could PM me a strategy for Egomaniacs on the Floor using BSW (or some other class) other than Ascendant, I keep dying while using it, and its internally making me pull my hair out.

DF  Post #: 96
10/14/2018 1:07:55   
Shadow X Ascendant

For BSW use all fire Residtance Gear that i and sakurai have told aside from helm that should be Baltael Aventail with +20 End/ +20 Wis. Also Use 200 Protection Dragon. Start with shield and beat Vaal First. Bring 5 potions from scrap cloak and the hero's diet.

< Message edited by Shadow X Ascendant -- 10/14/2018 1:08:39 >
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 97
10/14/2018 8:15:16   

@Shadow: ok, thanks
DF  Post #: 98
10/16/2018 12:55:36   

trying BSW for Egomaniacs on the Floor again and my Fire Res now: 80 with everything that Sakurai and Shadow suggested, aside from Frozen Claymore. (equipped Barons Fearless Helm & Baltael's Aventail (shown). Now, I've got Ultra OmniKnight Blade (Lvl. 90) shown with King Staff of Spades equipped (need to buy the King Dragon set again (had it, but sold them all (and a few other DC items) to buy Moglinberry Masher IX, so I'll have to buy them again when I get some more DCs). My Immobility now: 69 (with Ultra OmniKnight Blade) shown and I've got 5 Health Potions and Hero's Diet and currently my stats are: STR: 200 INT:200 LUK: 45, so I should be good...I hope. Wish me luck guys.

EDIT I: I was searching for a strategy to beat Egomaniacs on the Floor using BSW and I couldn't find anything. So, I tried using the Low Immobility Rotation from the Ultimate Dragonfable Strategy Guide for BSW against Vaal and Xan and that was a bust and I also tried the Berseker Boss Rotation too and that was a bust also. (was having some difficulty figuring out what type of boss they were). Basically, I was wondering if there was a rotation (in terms of what attacks to use) for this challenge?

< Message edited by Plutonium -- 10/16/2018 14:48:14 >
DF  Post #: 99
10/16/2018 14:05:16   
Shadow X Ascendant

Baltael Aventai Don't Work If only Shown, Only Equipping it will Boost the class. Sold? But You can simply Get King Staff of Spade/Heart/Diamond And Clubs all for Gold

< Message edited by Shadow X Ascendant -- 10/16/2018 14:06:15 >
AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 100
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