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7/20/2011 22:41:57   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

I honestly dont think that mods should be allowed to be on all time... this game is for the players. players have the job of having fun. mods have the job of watching everyone not trying to get more wins.... whatcha think?

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7/20/2011 22:42:48   
bobbyhonkers
Member

Who'd want to be a mod then?
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7/20/2011 22:44:52   
goldslayer1
Member

well
mods do have alot of advantages like power hour, exp boost, and tokens boost.
personally i dont mind having mods on the all time as long as they aren't abusing those things
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7/20/2011 22:45:45   
Sageofpeace
Member

@AVOBE LOL
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7/20/2011 22:47:49   
xXx83xXx
Member

If moderators weren't on all the time, who would delete the bad posts?
Who would patrol the forums?
Who would ban the bad apples?
Think about it.
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7/20/2011 22:48:43   
goldslayer1
Member

@83
she means the ingame all-time leaderboards >.>
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7/20/2011 22:53:03   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

goldslayer... they abuse warkills like CRAZY
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7/20/2011 22:54:12   
goldslayer1
Member

@latin
forgot about that one too lol
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7/20/2011 22:54:57   
Teufel Hunden
Member

Mods used to be normal players just like you and me and they earned their way on all-time so they should be able to be on there...
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7/20/2011 22:55:20   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @latin They don't appear on either the War kills or Rarity boards. And why should they not be allowed on All-Time Solo, Team or Juggernaut? They have to get those kills like everyone else.
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7/20/2011 22:57:58   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

erm... theyre mods... theyre job isnt to get a crapload of wins... theyre job is to improve the game

< Message edited by LatinLover/Martini -- 7/20/2011 22:58:37 >
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7/20/2011 23:07:03   
Clutch
Member

A very controversial topic that has been on my mind for quite some time. Yeah, I think if you take up the position to become a Moderator, you should be making a sacrifice of personal gain in order to benefit the community. Those spots on the All-times should be given to regular paying joes like us. As much as I respect and know mods, its for the best that those spots be given up I think.
If they willingly give up those spots, even more respect will be given to them.
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7/20/2011 23:07:27   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @Latin And how do you expect them to better the game if they stand around in random places around the map? There isn't much they can do in-game because not every person who gets chat locked or banned lacks the intelligence to know green name=no bad behavior. They get around maybe 10 at most from people who don't know they're mods.
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7/20/2011 23:07:28   
Ashari
Inconceivable!


 @LatinLover/Martini: Actually mods don't use War Kills at all since it wouldn't be fair. The boards we do have unfair advantages on (Fame, War Kills) don't have mods on them. But for boards like Solo, Team or Juggernaut leaders, what advantages do mods get that players don't have?

Mods have to work just as much as any player if they want to go for the daily & all-time championships. There are no mod perks that let us get wins any faster than players.

And remember, mods are just volunteers. We were all players once and we're doing this because we love the game! You're being pretty unrealistic if you expect us to never play EpicDuel again. A lot of the time, there are people that need help that you meet in battle.

< Message edited by Ashari -- 7/20/2011 23:10:32 >
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7/20/2011 23:07:28   
2qazwsxedc
Member

^ Well actually the mods were removed from some leaderboards because they can actually get a ton of whatever they were removed from making unfair to the players. The mods on all time don't have any advantages over players on those leaderboards.
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7/20/2011 23:11:43   
Clutch
Member

@Ashari

But comeon, moderators are able to switch classes, get ANY weapons,no matter the rarity, you wish, and basically become the most overpowered class and builds of the current time. I won't mention any names, but it has been done and can be technically viewed as an unfair advantage.
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7/20/2011 23:14:17   
Elf Priest JZaanu
Constructive!


 This brings a difficult issue that can be seen in both perspectives.

Moderators do invest their time in game related issues that could top many hours a day, and they are not being paid for it. So they should have a right to play this game as it was designed to be.

On the other side, because this game is designed for pvp, race, and status, many elements that are perks can also be viewed as exploitive.


I feel the warkills feature should be off limits. Unless they pay with actual money, they have no right to use a perk against a paying customer. If any moderator did so, I would be extremely disappointed.

Everything else, they should participate in, and just tagged in green, so everyone knows their position in the game.

If there is a top 20, and 5 mods are on any list, then adjust it so it shows top 25.

Players who invest their time and monies with no perks should be recognized, because they didn't use perks to achieve their goals. It is only considerate.


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7/20/2011 23:32:38   
Clutch
Member

Great idea JZaanu. But I don't know if the devs would really be willing to be flexible in bending the number of spots on the leaderboards based on the moderators. I feel like they will rather be on there, or not at all :/.
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7/20/2011 23:48:57   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

Well mods do have that logo on their character. It no longer displays emperor or commander but mod. They have enough privileges. Donna Matrix was removed from the all time war cannon board so should the rest of them.

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7/21/2011 0:00:23   
Ashari
Inconceivable!


 @LatinLover/Martini: Donna being removed from the War Kills board wasn't a one time thing. All game staff, mods included don't show up on the War Kills or Fame leaderboard at all. And that's part is entirely fair and justified, since War Kills require Varium so it wouldn't be fair for a moderator to compete against an a paying player. Additionally mods get a lot of attention, so it's also not fair for them to fill up the Fame boards.

However, you really haven't brought up a reason for removing mods from other boards such as All-Time Solo, Team or Juggernaut. All of these boards require a moderator to work at it just like any other player on the leaderboard. If you removed moderators from those boards, would you also remove factions with moderators in them from the All-Time faction leaderboards? I think that would be very unfair for the players in those factions.

I see where this is coming from, but moderators, if anything, should be closely connected to the community. We're not just here to hand out bans or chatlocks -- we're here to help out, to be a friendly player you can talk to and to know what's going on in-game not just in terms of gameplay, but in terms of community too. I really don't think it's a good idea to disconnect mods more from the game community than they already are.

< Message edited by Ashari -- 7/21/2011 0:02:23 >
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7/21/2011 0:01:15   
aqwshadowking14
Member

Don't mods also have free brainwash, which means those are free wins.
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7/21/2011 0:07:16   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

@ aqwshadowking14

You bring up a valid point, brainwash gives them a free 75 wins per day. How is that fair?

What about achievements, if I recall right Donna asked for the elite and alpha badge. She wasn't even part of that era, she didn't deserve that badge. There has to be boundaries to what a mod can or cannot get.
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7/21/2011 0:08:30   
Elf Priest JZaanu
Constructive!


 Right now, the game does not have the flexibility to separate the player and moderator where they are equally rewarded for their efforts, or co-mingle where conflicts don't arise.

Sadly, this will always be an issue.
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7/21/2011 0:08:56   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @latin And how does getting a badge affect anything? Donna gets more points and therefore more stars. And what do stars do again? Nothing.
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7/21/2011 0:09:49   
LatinLover/Martini
Member

stars = showmanship
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