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12/3/2011 4:17:05   
I am Primal
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what if battles were like class only battles like all bh all tech mage ect. so therefore battles wouldn't be unfair class wise only when it comes to varium then no one would have to nerf anything. and tactical mercs would actually have be challenged. insted of simply not using it's full power.
and all classes could compete to see whos best and this could maybe lead to the tournaments later. what do you guys think could this work?

discuss !
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12/3/2011 4:28:20   
Xendran
Member

no
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 2
12/3/2011 4:34:51   
I am Primal
Member
 

and may i ask what class are you? perhaps tactical merc?
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12/3/2011 4:56:07   
rej
Member

You do not need to ask, he has his account linked.
I have to agree with... it. No. Absolutely not.

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AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 4
12/3/2011 5:01:37   
Xendran
Member

I was a tech mage. I'm a tact merc atm but i dont even play anymore.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 5
12/3/2011 5:25:50   
supermasivo
Member

wrong post, pls delete it.

< Message edited by supermasivo -- 12/3/2011 5:26:36 >
Epic  Post #: 6
12/3/2011 5:30:20   
Darkwing
Member

make it a new battle mode? class-only battle thing? thats would be nice.

< Message edited by Darkwing -- 12/3/2011 5:31:28 >
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12/3/2011 8:07:53   
Remorse
Member

I am not a tactical merc, I dislike the balance currently and I dislike fighting TLMs.


But this is still a teriable idea.

Its boring enough as it is having to fight the same build betweens classes as it is, having to fight your own class constatnly would be even worse.

Also LUCK would become teriable, the fact builds are becoming so similar already show that LUCK becomes teriable in these situations.


SO a definate no from me, Sorry.
Epic  Post #: 8
12/3/2011 9:52:36   
Stabilis
Member

We can all be happy if Tactical Mercenary either loses the MAGE skill reroute or technician...
AQ Epic  Post #: 9
12/3/2011 9:55:52   
I am Primal
Member
 

agreed rain reroute has to go everyone knows it.
Post #: 10
12/3/2011 9:58:25   
Remorse
Member

^ either that or hybrid,

If hybrid was removed then at least good old normal mercs will revivied
Epic  Post #: 11
12/3/2011 10:03:02   
InceptionAE
Member

No. It'll get boring facing the same class.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 12
12/3/2011 10:03:03   
Stabilis
Member

I think they need hybrid though because that is reeking of pure mercenariness.
AQ Epic  Post #: 13
12/3/2011 10:07:10   
Remorse
Member

^ Disagree,

Hybrid is basically the opisite of "tactical"

Maybe if their name was TANK merc, if hybrid was switched for Defence matrix it would be alot more "tactical" then the laziness hybrid allows.


Also.

DID the Hunter in CH keep Blood lust?

DID the mage in BM keep reroute?

NO.

WHy does TLMs get to keep thier orignals classes main passive, why else do you think no one wants to go normal merc because they are too similar to TLMs and completely outmatched.
Epic  Post #: 14
12/3/2011 10:12:38   
Stabilis
Member

^ TlM gets HA

BM gets DA

CH gets SA

... Remember, Mercenary is the only starter with one passive!
AQ Epic  Post #: 15
12/3/2011 10:18:13   
Remorse
Member

^Did I mention MAIN pasive,

Yes I did

We both know Deadly aim, and shadow arts are not main passives, meaning they are not always doing something, SA when your opennet is not using blockables and deadly aim when your guns in cool down.
Hybrid, BL and Reroute however can be said to be always in effect because players can adjust their build to fit thier advanatges, meaning mercs can use less atts on dex and more on watever, mages can uses less on mana and more on watever, and BH can focus on being powerful builds to gain more HP.

Also Old mercs were the only starter class with one passive becaause it is so dam powerful, now put that togther with anothe rmain passive and its nowonder why they are oped.

They have to lose hybrid if they wanna set TLMs at the same advanatge at the start of games as all other classes.
Plus to reivive old mercs.
Epic  Post #: 16
12/3/2011 10:19:04   
I am Primal
Member
 

hybrid isn't the problem it;s the dam energy they get back spamming skills.
Post #: 17
12/3/2011 10:19:36   
Stabilis
Member

What do you mean main passives? HA, DA have both been here from very early on.
AQ Epic  Post #: 18
12/3/2011 10:24:31   
rej
Member

quote:

^Did I mention MAIN pasive,

Yes I did

We both know Deadly aim, and shadow arts are not main passives, meaning they are not always doing something, SA when your opennet is not using blockables and deadly aim when your guns in cool down.
Hybrid, BL and Reroute however can be said to be always in effect because players can adjust their build to fit thier advanatges, meaning mercs can use less atts on dex and more on watever, mages can uses less on mana and more on watever, and BH can focus on being powerful builds to gain more HP.

Also Old mercs were the only starter class with one passive becaause it is so dam powerful, now put that togther with anothe rmain passive and its nowonder why they are oped.

They have to lose hybrid if they wanna set TLMs at the same advanatge at the start of games as all other classes.
Plus to reivive old mercs.

if you use logic like that:
reroute is not active when your opponent is adding a buff, healing, or being blocked.
hybrid is not active when your opponent is using an energy attacks.
blood lust is not active if you're adding a buff, healing, or you're blocked.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 19
12/3/2011 10:25:22   
Remorse
Member

@Primal,

yes but the energy they get for spamming skills wouldnt not be a problem if you could kill em quick and you could without extreme defneces.

Plus TLM need reroute as they have alot of skills which need it, were as they dont need the constant hybrid advanatge on top of it all.
Epic  Post #: 20
12/3/2011 10:34:44   
Stabilis
Member

Also, blood lust is not amendable if health is full; reroute is not amendable if energy is full.
AQ Epic  Post #: 21
12/3/2011 10:40:18   
Remorse
Member

^
quote:

Hybrid, BL and Reroute however can be said to be always in effect because players can adjust their build to gain advanatges, meaning mercs can use less atts on dex and more on watever, mages can uses less on mana and more on watever, and BH can focus on being powerful builds to gain more HP.
Epic  Post #: 22
12/3/2011 10:57:30   
Stabilis
Member

And because health is full blood lust is still draining health? I don't think so.
AQ Epic  Post #: 23
12/3/2011 11:05:21   
Remorse
Member

NO, But because BH have BL they can deliberatly make thier builds powerful while having to reily less on defesive stats, similar to how hybrid stop mercs needed to worry about dex.
Epic  Post #: 24
12/3/2011 11:06:12   
supermasivo
Member

^ Tac mercs still have their "main" passive skills Hybrid armor couse its the ONLY PASSVE SKILL THEY HAVE... Tech mage = Reroute and Deadly aim, evolution? Still have deadly aim and BH's Bloodlust... in case of BH = Shadow arts and Bloodlust! and evolution? CH = SA and a "semi-passive" very OP BUT BLOCKABLE static charge.
Epic  Post #: 25
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