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2/16/2012 4:06:36   
gangster a
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the mods and devs focus so much on the new classes that nothing has been done to the old ones. bounty hunters need something done to boost them a bit as they are getting less powerful and mercs are less then weak they have not had anything done to make them a bit more powerful.

what do you guys think they should do to the old classes?
DISCUSS
no flamming, no going off topic, this is not for the balance disscussion or suggestion.

< Message edited by gangster a -- 2/16/2012 7:19:03 >
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2/16/2012 4:13:13   
Darkeroid
Member

SuperCharge is NOT OP.
Epic  Post #: 2
2/16/2012 4:14:27   
T.600
Member

OP supercharge build? Lol.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 3
2/16/2012 4:15:11   
gangster a
Member

just my opinion
edited now please dont go off topic

< Message edited by gangster a -- 2/16/2012 4:16:58 >
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2/16/2012 5:48:30   
TurkishIncubus
Member

The only playable old class is TM. Other 2 is UP.



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Epic  Post #: 5
2/16/2012 5:58:34   
Fay Beeee
Member

Have to agree with you here.

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2/16/2012 6:03:24   
drinde
Member

o.0

Bounty Hunters are UP? Huh....
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2/16/2012 6:04:08   
TurkishIncubus
Member

^Yes
Epic  Post #: 8
2/16/2012 6:07:47   
Oba
Member

quote:

Bounty Hunters are UP? Huh....

Bounty Hunters got UP when they made massacre weaker, thats atleast what I think....

So Mercs and BH's need some kind of buff. TM is still a very good class so I dont think it need any change. Yet.
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2/16/2012 6:11:54   
TurkishIncubus
Member

The main problem is Energy return skills are too OP, thats why weakest classes are Merc-BM-BH, since they dont have energy return they can only do 1 way builds with only spam
Epic  Post #: 10
2/16/2012 6:20:45   
vulkan
Member

i thought bounty hunters and blood mages could regain energy through reflex boost.
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2/16/2012 6:30:21   
TurkishIncubus
Member

^ Its not passively you need to use the skill, which means 1 turn loss and you also spent energy for reflex boost and it will stay only for 4 turns.
Epic  Post #: 12
2/16/2012 7:06:21   
Clavier
Member

Imo BH is still doing pretty good.
Epic  Post #: 13
2/16/2012 7:40:34   
Gepard Acht
Member

you cannot call RB an ep regainer

< Message edited by Gepard Acht -- 2/16/2012 7:41:10 >
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2/16/2012 8:08:11   
Ranloth
Banned
quote:

the mods and devs focus so much on the new classes that nothing has been done to the old ones. bounty hunters need something done to boost them a bit as they are getting less powerful and mercs are less then weak they have not had anything done to make them a bit more powerful.

  • Nothing? 2 weeks ago or almost 3, TM got slight buff to make it a bit easier to play around with. Of course 1 requirement was added to Malf, but not big as max is 37 Str at L10 while people train up to L7 so just 31 Str (most items will have about that too).
  • That is true, but it's a Balance discussion. That something is an improvement which is related to balance. BHs might be a bit UP'ed I will agree due to Massacre change mainly, but giving them improvement in other skill without buffing CHs would be good.
  • Mercs have expected buffs as well, Devs mentioned that TM was first focus and then Mercs as they weren't doing so well.
    • AQ Epic  Post #: 15
    2/16/2012 8:21:48   
    gangster a
    Member

    		tech mage got buffed way longer then just 4 weeks im sure of it.

    they said there was supposed to be buffs for merc 1 year ago yet still nothing has been done.

    yes i agree with you on the bh part as cybers are the most OP at the moment if bountys get buffed cybers should stay where they are.

    i was afraid you would say that
    quote:

    but it's a Balance discussion. That something is an improvement which is related to balance
    but no one sees anything from balance section it just gets covered by new balance disscusions. most of them never get solved
    AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 16
    2/16/2012 8:30:08   
    Ranloth
    Banned


    		 My point was, this will get locked because it's Balance discussion.

    Mercs yeah were told, but we have Balance Tracker which has shown Mercs are UP'ed along with TMs (TMs got their buff for now) and Mercs are next priority to buff them up to be able to compete.
    AQ Epic  Post #: 17
    2/16/2012 8:38:38   
    gangster a
    Member

    		i see then i request this thread locked also off-topic my twitter isnt working ;/
    AQ MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 18
    2/16/2012 8:46:29   
    veneeria
    Member

    		Not sure about mercs and bounty hunters being UP. But i am doing well with my bounty hunter.
    Sounds rather that people got too used to having an OP build, that when they got "nerfed to normal stage", it looks UP'ed.

    Supercharge is not OP, what makes it special is the BUILD and THE PEOPLE who use it. And i am saying special, not OP.

    Also saw some pretty decent blood mages and just the STR 2 Dimensional type.
    AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 19
    2/16/2012 18:52:50   
    rej
    Member

    		Mercenaries - given a much weaker version of static charge.
    Bounty hunters - no changes needed
    Mages - a heal-related ability. They need this badly as they have 0 defensive/healing passives.
    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 20
    2/16/2012 19:05:45   
    Stabilis
    Member

    quote:

    Mages - a heal-related ability. They need this badly as they have 0 defensive/healing passives.


    I would be confused at the validity of this statement.
    AQ Epic  Post #: 21
    2/16/2012 19:12:08   
    nico0las
    Member

    		Seeing as I play as a Tech Mage and have with it 1231 wins and 117 losses (91.3%), I'm going to say the old classes are still equal.
    Although the new classes are VERY powerful, there's no need to fix something that isn't broken.

    Bounty Hunter and Tech Mage are fine as they are. Mercenary is weak, but it's been like that for a while.
    MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 22
    2/16/2012 20:09:33   
    rej
    Member

    quote:

    I would be confused at the validity of this statement.


    Opinion, not statement. Jesus.

    Mercenaries have Hybrid, Tactical Mercenaries have Mineral Armor, Cyber Hunters have Plasma Armor, Bounty hunters and Blood mages have Blood Lust (It heals small amounts of health, therefor it functions as a weak, passive heal in many situations.)
    AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 23
    2/16/2012 20:27:42   
    OmilliYo
    Member

    		Bounty hunters are UPP!!! nevah :P, i get decent amount of wins, more than loses. But then again its rare to see a commander super BH.
    AQW Epic  Post #: 24
    2/16/2012 20:36:10   
    Stabilis
    Member

    		@rej,

    How am I supposed to know if what you had said was declared or suggested if you don't show that?

    And about BH from reading recent posts: that class and BM could use a way of energy regeneration in a defensive manner, such as taking a turn to restore energy without attacking. That way, STR/power spamming isn't 100% happening, giving other players a chance to recover.
    AQ Epic  Post #: 25
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