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9/2/2012 10:26:17   
Meet The Devil
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Hi, everyone i have a suggestion and that is to use HTML 5 instead of Flash because its much more powerful and hardware accelerated and best off all it will allow us to play epic duel on our tablets like iPad and so ...

Looking forward for your replies

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9/2/2012 10:52:46   
One Winged Angel1357
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http://www.photonstorm.com/archives/2568/the-reality-of-developing-web-games-with-flash-html5-and-unity

You might want to read up on that it compares Unity Flash and HTML5.

Two big points is it is much easier to hack HTML5 games and modern HTLM5 game are just getting n par with low level flash games as of publish date on that article
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 2
9/2/2012 11:05:14   
Meet The Devil
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@One Winged Angel: This is what i saw at the article which you gave me

The JS code can be obfuscated but not encrypted with anything that can’t be un-encrypted client side. Code is easily tweaked at run-time in-memory. Graphic and Audio assets are extremely easy to steal, taking little more than an object Inspection in Chrome/Firefox or even a quick glance through a browser cache folder. If this is an issue for you or not is entirely dependant on your game and client (the type that pays the bills, not the browser client!). [Update] A valid comment was made below that there are ways of protecting your HTML5 assets, and that (in his opinion) Flash assets were just as easy to steal as HTML5 ones are. I’m not going to get into the debate of file protection, suffice to say that anything you can do to protect an HTML5 asset you can equally do in Flash.



which clearly means that we can protect HTML 5 because there are ways to do so ...
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9/2/2012 11:14:41   
One Winged Angel1357
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can you edit some enter keystrokes into that so you dont stretch the page?

Also I read that too but it is easier to get into an HTML file then having to tear apart and SWF to find the code that you want to break.

HTML:
quote:

Code is easily tweaked at run-time in-memory. Graphic and Audio assets are extremely easy to steal, taking little more than an object Inspection in Chrome/Firefox or even a quick glance through a browser cache folder.


Flash:
quote:

SWF files are not perfect, but at least it combines all of your assets and code into a single place that requires technical know-how or 3rd party apps to break.


If we already have hackers they spend the time to break into SWF files and hack the game wouldn't it just add to the problem if HTML code is easily found?
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 4
9/2/2012 11:18:02   
Meet The Devil
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yeah you are true but hackers are everywhere you cant just stop them they hack flash also they just need time and your best security keeps them away so i guess you guys can put your effort in html 5 also ;) rest is up to you ....
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9/2/2012 16:47:38   
One Winged Angel1357
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Okay here is both a bit of good and bad news from Lycus is a very similar topic. The last bit is the good news

quote:

EpicDuel is an online MMOPvP game, that runs in your Web-browser, it was created to be played on PC's, not phones nor tablets. If your phone or tablet supports it, then that's great, but as NDMallet explained a bit on, changing it over isn't that simple, both formats have different pro's and con's. Adobe Flash is the program in which the game is coded and created, it's the program that all of Artix Entertainments Online Games use, because it is the most secure, and flexible for what they want to do.

Translating the whole game to HTML5 not only means every release would have to be coded in Flash, then translated, then all the bugs created by the translation fixed. The potential of updates that brings up major issues, and other potential problems. That put with it presenting security issues, among others, it has the potential to cause major game breaking breakages in the game.

Saying that Flash is dying, I have to disagree, I know for a fact that it's still extremely strong. I don't have Flash Player added on to my FireFox, and I can't do much at all, since so many things require flash, visiting a large majority of webpages, videos, some pictures, games, and a lot more. The reason Phones have stopped using it, is because Flash requires a lot more power than a lot of phones can provide. Flash is a much more powerful code/format than HTML5, phones usually can't handle Flash with their processors, so companies have started adding automatic conversion of Flash to HTML5 to some of their phones, to allow the phones to cope with it. Usually this doesn't work with games like EpicDuel, or any game like that, it usually just works with videos and a few other features.

We understand that people may love to play EpicDuel on their phones or tablets, but for now, all I can recommend is an app called Photon for iPhone/iPad that allows you to use Flash while browsing through it, and it isn't very laggy at all, it's mainly depending on your internet. As for other phones/tablets, then good luck finding something to allow you to play it. Since ED was created to be a PC game, it was not given any more support for mobiles than Flash does, and because it's not simple to change this, it is unlikely for this to change anytime soon, but potentially some time in the future, it could be looked into!
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9/3/2012 3:12:43   
Meet The Devil
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okay thanks for the reply :)
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