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11/18/2012 22:28:59   
Metallico
Member

Well guys, didnīt you notice that not much people buys the varium assault bot?
Well is because:

1) They have the same % of debuff reduction. so whatīs the ****ing point of varium?
2) They are useless after using their special skill. You use their special skill, now it got nerfed and it still makes you weaker and plus that you have to wait 3 turns more for maybe reduce another debuff

I suggest that varium version have more % of debuff reduction or make it cheaper and also give them the abbility to be used after special skill is used or atleast reduce the cooldown of the normal attack.
I am one of the non variums who won this bot on gamma, i dont want to sell it is like a war trophy for me cuz i donīt have the cheevo LOL.

But really this is serious guys ŽŽ

My conclusion, this bot needs a buff

< Message edited by Metallico -- 11/18/2012 22:36:11 >
Epic  Post #: 1
11/18/2012 22:30:56   
ReconnaisX
Member

When the Rusted bot was first released, a lot of people were pissed off about the only thing separating it from the Varium version was Physical damage and less of it.
I support, the Varium one needs to actually have a use.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 2
11/18/2012 22:39:14   
Mother1
Member

The reason they nerfed it in the first place was because it was too useful. It made debuffs almost worthless so they nerfed it. But this originally happened back they unleashed the second war bot on us and made it too powerful then got the idea to 'balance' all of the bots.

However as for these idea of buffing it up not supported. Debuffs are already almost worthless as it is thanks to the assault bot removing 65% of them and now you want the effect to be more powerful or have a shorter cooldown? All bots with the exception of the infernal bot that have repeatable specials have a 3 turn cooldown and making it's cooldown shorter would throw it out of balance with the others.

As for why they did this it was because non variums unless they got lucky like yourself didn't even have a bot and they complain it wasn't fair. While I can agree the rusted bot should have done less then the original since it was a beat up version of the bot there is a difference. One is physical, the other is energy and the assault bot does more damage then it's rusted counterpart.
Epic  Post #: 3
11/18/2012 22:51:02   
Metallico
Member

@mother1

This bot is actually useless because you lose a turn reducing the debuff, you are not able to attack.

Iīll give you and example:

You face a classic support tech mage with 140 hp, he uses malf and there you get -47 technology, you use bot and then you have -17/18 technology points and now you canīt use it as a weapon, supposing you survive to the first malfunction the mage who has an awsome energy flow malfs again and you canīt use your bot again to attack..

Is a bot, is supposed to be used with a five focus build instead of just reducing debuffs thatīs the real purpose of having a bot.. trust me 65% is not much nowadays
How do we wanīt the people buy it when a five focus build barely fails when using it?
Atleast give 1 extra cooldown turn to normal attack after special abbility is used
Epic  Post #: 4
11/18/2012 23:07:59   
Mother1
Member

@ Metallico

A bot is suppose to aid you in battle not be a miracle worker. As I stated before because the Assault bot/rusted assault bot effect was so powerful it made these debuffs almost worthless. That was why it got nerfed down to 65% so Debuffs could be somewhat useful to the person who caused them. Buffing the assault bot again would only make debuffs worthless again.

Besides even though you claim that the bot much now a days would you rather have the full -47 technology or the -17 or 18 technology?

Plus from what I remember there were only two bots that could use both of their moves at the same time. Those were the gamma bot before it was nerfed, and the baby yeti if you attacked then used it special in that order. The Assault bot never was like this, and to be able to use both of these at the same time the only fair thing to do would to be to make it so all of the bots could do this, but then they would all become OP.

As I stated before bots are suppose to be used to help you in battle and you have the choose of either attacking (which wouldn't make much sense if you been debuffed 47 tech) or remove 65% of the debuff not one after the other.

Epic  Post #: 5
11/18/2012 23:27:32   
Metallico
Member

other bots had a offenssive skill but 65% is so worthless now, i think that the bot attack cooldown should reduced to 1, give it individual cooldowns...

The help it gives is so null when your build depends on the bot attack ik that is a good bot but itīs offenssive part sucks
Epic  Post #: 6
11/18/2012 23:37:32   
Mother1
Member

@ Metallico

The bio borg special isn't offensive either yet it cooldown is the same as the rest. (Yes I know it is a buff that cause opponents to hurt themselves with melee attacks but the point is this bot like the assault one is that it is also defensive)

As for the offensive part of your bot 10-14 base damage isn't the worst in the world. Look at it's rusted counterpart. That bot has 8-12 base damage which is weaker then the assault bot's. Plus unlike the infernal android and Gamma bot the Assault bot is suppose to be a defensive/offensive bot. In fact every bot other then those two are just that defensive/offensive bots.

Also while all the other bots have offensive skills (other then the bio borg since it's special doesn't do any damage itself like the assault and rusted assault bots) those weren't made for the purpose of attacking however since the effects hit the opponents in the form of a weak attack they will do damage.
Epic  Post #: 7
11/19/2012 7:57:05   
Metallico
Member

@mother1

Yeah, i know assault can work as offenssive and defenssive, but canīt attack after used as deffenssive...

So you use the bio borg example, it is a very good bot and it defends you from strikes which is pretty good to beat strenght hunters, it allows you to give back damage and defend yourself at the same time, but when an assault bot is your only offenssive is bad...

My suggestions now:

75% debuff reduction for the varium version, seems fair for me
reduce the normal attack cooldown to one after using the special skill

Itīd give varium players a real reason to buy the bot

Finally who really decides all are the devīs
thankīs for suggestions mother1 i know you want all to be balanced
Epic  Post #: 8
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