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4/3/2011 16:25:15   
Tiago X
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I think that there aren't many of them. That's the reason so many people quit the game around level 25-27, because of the lack of good weapons.
Do you think that there enough Non Varium items? Why? Got a suggestion to solve that problem ? Post it :]
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4/3/2011 16:59:27   
Light Stridr
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use the user suggested weps, get people to volunteer to flash them, give them a stat setup, done.
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4/3/2011 17:03:07   
One Winged Angel1357
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 F2P's get scwered around lv 24-26 becuase Merc major gear is lv 22-23 and mage major gear is lv 28(dont know level for sword just class specfic gear) as for Armors the lv 28 armors that F2P's have can hold there own so it doesnt matter
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4/3/2011 17:26:40   
Novaburst
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Personally as a TM at level 30 there aren't really alot of options for armors, the best one is the Seraph at level 28, I don't really care much about a stronger armor as much as more variety, If your armor is your largest defining feature, I'd like enough to be able to create a good look for myself instead of the armor every other non-varium tech mage has.
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4/3/2011 18:52:25   
King FrostLich
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Level 32's need a new gun and bazooka. I used to remember the non variums having an aux damage 1 damage lower than variums now its 2-3 damage lower :/.
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4/3/2011 18:59:44   
edwardvulture
Member

They're not doing enough to help f2ps stay competetive most of the time.
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4/3/2011 19:38:55   
od
Member

@Frost
but they also had WAY less stats

blue devil: +33 dmg, 4 stats
ebunny: +33 dmg, 18 stats

Epic  Post #: 7
4/3/2011 19:57:22   
Competition
Member

^ Why would you compare the Aux with the most stats to a one that anyone barely uses ..?
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4/3/2011 23:25:59   
od
Member

^ because 1 year ago that was the best one
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4/4/2011 1:18:33   
voidance
Member

So you comparing stuff that is 1 year old? You need to compare stuff like Yultide and Frost cannon since they are up to date and was released at same time. Which is, (Yultide +35 damage +12 stats) (Frost Cannon +37 damage +14 stats).
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4/4/2011 1:48:03   
Lectrix
Member

Pfft. Non-Varium Mercs can give even the best Varium Bounty Hunters and Varium Tech Mages a run for their money (no pun intended). Non-Varium Bounty Hunters and Non-Varium Tech Mages, on the other hand, don't stand a chance. Especially with Varium Mercs running around and crushing us into dust.

To be honest, I'm embarrassed with my Tech Mage. There's a reason I'm keeping him hidden (for now, at least). Between my first 25+ Levels of noobiness, and my humiliating losses at the hands of endless Support Mercs, I've just about had it. This isn't even funny anymore. Why bother playing, when you know you're going to get your head smashed in by some big fat Merc? Maul, Beserker, dead. "Gg"? Yeah right.

Oh, and my Bounty Hunter just hit Level 27. You all know what that means...

Not all of us can afford to spend money on these games. But when I can't even get a half-decent Energy Sidearm for my Level 32 Tech Mage that won't cost me 10 bucks worth of Varium, what chance do I have? When a "free to play" game becomes a "free to lose" game, why should anyone want to keep playing?

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4/4/2011 3:27:54   
matteo234
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It would be nice for some decent weapons to come in for the non-varium populace of Delta V, but it had better not look any cooler than the cryomancer staff if its for mages :) ok, im a bit biased for being a varium mage :) yeah, a good few weapons would be great, i bought varium at around level 28, when the cap was 30 during beta, and it was an almost instant ok-ownage sort of change at the time. Now, its hard to seehow to weather out the continuous assault from level 27 onwards.

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4/4/2011 3:47:59   
voidance
Member

1. My biggest problem is, when a Non-Varuim gets something, they are never happy. They always just say ok and move onto the next thing on their list to complain about.
2.Varuim and Non-Varuim wasnt ment to be created equal, so to suggest for a item to have same or 1 less damage and 2-4 less stats then a Varuim item is stupid. So quit suggesting it.


Yes its harsh to say Varuim should dominate but im not gonna suger coat it, in the end thats what we pay for. Well thats the reason i pay for it, the rest of you can lie but what does that solve?

< Message edited by voidance -- 4/4/2011 3:49:40 >
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4/4/2011 5:50:08   
TankMage
Member

quote:

Yes its harsh to say Varuim should dominate but im not gonna suger coat it, in the end thats what we pay for. Well thats the reason i pay for it, the rest of you can lie but what does that solve?


Agree 100%, Admittedly non-variums may give some sort of advertisements by telling freinds / increasing amount of players. But in the end we pay real life money. Variums users are intended to have an advantage in game.

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4/4/2011 6:19:21   
Luna_moonraider
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quote:

So you comparing stuff that is 1 year old? You need to compare stuff like Yultide and Frost cannon since they are up to date and was released at same time. Which is, (Yultide +35 damage +12 stats) (Frost Cannon +37 damage +14 stats).


lolz. look at the stat requirement of Yultide. 47 str and other stats i forgot cause i rarely use it. frost cannon has 45 str requirement or was it lesser the 47 str requirement of yultide forces a non var to use a focus build or a str build when using yultide. a mage cant use a str build so basically the yultide zooka is useless for a mage. the stat placement of the bazooka is good only for a str build because it give a str boost, major dex boost and a minor support boost.

back on topic

hmm where should i start.

Robots

well a non var dun really even have a purchasable robot to use. while varium players can buy 2 different robots.

weps

well u would say it is fair that a non var wep have lesser stats compared to a var wep. but when enhancements come to play the balance is totally shaken. Y because var players usually have full enhancements on their weps. U will rarely see a non var have full enhancements.Oh the devs gave us more enhancements slots. yeah that is true but what non varium can enhance fully enhance 8 slot with just credits.

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4/4/2011 6:34:22   
TankMage
Member

quote:

well a non var dun really even have a purchasable robot to use. while varium players can buy 2 different robots.


Your forgetting we have to pay real life money to obtain these ... of course they should give an advantage.
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4/4/2011 6:50:51   
zenix
Member

@ voidance
Ever played AQW? If not, give it a try, if only to get an impression.
There is a stabile balance of free-to-play and paying players. Why shouldn't this also work for ED, i'm wondering
Post #: 17
4/4/2011 10:43:50   
od
Member

quote:

Pfft. Non-Varium Mercs can give even the best Varium Bounty Hunters and Varium Tech Mages a run for their money (no pun intended). Non-Varium Bounty Hunters and Non-Varium Tech Mages, on the other hand, don't stand a chance. Especially with Varium Mercs running around and crushing us into dust.


?


You gotta have the right build man, my Mage beats 40% of varium players, although I admit that when I didn't have asssault bot it was around 25%. The balance is decent, although I'd like to see these things:

1) new energy lvl 32 aux for nonvars
2) sidearms for lvl 32 nonvars
3)A second set of lvl 28 nonvar armor
Epic  Post #: 18
4/4/2011 12:54:31   
voidance
Member

@Luna_moonraide
Doesnt matter what the Req's are, you cant say "Hmm lets see how far apart cars are now days" and compare 2 of the T. Models. Thats just not a accurate view of the difference.
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