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6/28/2011 15:36:52   
Light Stridr
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Looking at the DNs and such, this is getting depressing.

I thought that Juggernaut was a prime example that attempting to monetize some of the major features in game only backfires on you.
I doubt 1200 Varium=20000 credits, especially when compared to class change.

Speaking of Class Change, these new evolved classes look set to be heavily advantaged against everything else.
And Guess what? They're Varium.

No surprise, considering the following are denied to non-variums:
Housing
Majority of high-level weapons (and through this, credits, wins, stats and builds)
Robots
Class Change
Faction Foundership
Most of the enhancements

Now let's forget the non-variums and move on.
Let's look at the average Varium Player.

Varium Armour - 1000 Varium
Varium Weapon - 1000-2000 Varium x3
Robot - Free or 1250 Varium
Enhancements - 800 Varium x2, 200 Varium x2
Total - At least 4000 Varium
That's only for the weapons equipped. You need to add any other weapons you have on as well, and the 4000 varium is a minimalistic guide, excluding WarKills, factions, class change, and so on.

That's the point. 4000 Varium, just for 1 set of unenhanced equipment.
I think that's overpriced, especially since you get only 5000 varium for $35, or twice that for $50.

But I'm straying from the point.

This game has become unfair. Not just to Non-varium, but also to Varium player, founders, elite... you name it, they're unhappy.
I don't need to open your eyes, they are wide open, yet refuse to see the reality.
You've seen the general reaction on the forums, and simply dodge the issue.

I'm betting that tomorrow, lots of non-varium players, eager for the new class evolutions, will rush on, and find that they have been denied another brick on the wall. But many of them don't turn away.
They have anchors, anchors that tie them to this game.

The community, or, at least, what decency there is left in it.
Their status - There are non-variums who have reached the level cap, and I applaud them, not only for their skill, but their persistence.
Hope - hope that one day, this game will lose its money-grabbing facade, and that the game will be fairer for everyone.

I hear that Delta means change, but so far, I see no hint of this.
I'm leaving, at least for now.

I assure you that many feel the same way I do.

I need to know, will this simply be Gamma all over again, or will we really see change?

Sincerely,

Light Stridr

@mir, I no longer care what happens here. When this game becomes reasonably fair for all people, then I'll return.
@everybody else: block mir, 6 posts trying to flame and troll is not helpful in the least.

< Message edited by Light Stridr -- 6/28/2011 16:36:27 >
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6/28/2011 15:41:37   
xxmirxx
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I AM SOOOOOO HAPPY ITS FOR VARIUM ONLY GOOD JOB HANDS DOWN.
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6/28/2011 15:44:17   
Xx. Christian .xX
Member

well i feel the same even if im a varium holder, the varium are to low for example if u buy 2500 barium its only 1 wep with a full enhancement or a armor with full enhancement or a gamma bot or if ur lazy u buy assualt bot
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6/28/2011 15:47:45   
AQWPlayer
Member

@xxmirxx
Congratz on making the class evolution varium and reaching level 1 -.-
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6/28/2011 15:48:46   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


mir you are a sick one

Class Evo is another stone taken out of the gap now when Delta Goes live F2P's will have the upper hand for about a day until Variums get there classes all set once that comes around its back to the good old pit for us
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6/28/2011 15:55:02   
xxmirxx
Member
 

http://www.epicduel.com/charpage.asp?id=One%20Winged%20Angel
http://www.epicduel.com/charpage.asp?id=eloy2006 come on guys look at your wins you wouldn't stand chance on winning matches even if was free.
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6/28/2011 15:57:58   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


Mir im at a 70% win rate semi retired and i mess around running a faction on that Character and im still F2P
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 7
6/28/2011 16:00:32   
xxmirxx
Member
 

That doesn't help your claim being underpower.
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6/28/2011 16:02:54   
Lectrix
Member

Discussion in this Thread can continue as long as it doesn't become a Varium vs. non-Varium spam Thread. Please stay on topic.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
6/28/2011 16:04:54   
Light Stridr
Member

quote:

Varium vs. non-Varium

That's not the point of my message. The point is this game treats everybody unfairly, regardless of how much money they have spent on this game.
AQW Epic  Post #: 10
6/28/2011 16:04:57   
xxmirxx
Member
 

LOL but fight against non varium vs non varium.
AQ Epic  Post #: 11
6/28/2011 16:09:41   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


Mir i dont see Tungsted fist or Charfade helm in your achievement list but i see them in mine so think about that

Anyway i think that while Enhancements and Jugg are two things that are now in the hands of F2P that i choose to ignore those becuase we cant complain its Varium its just an effort to get it
Im going to start listing things off here

Factions: So you have money you are instantly a good leader
Class Evo:this popped u on twitter while i was making the list so
quote:

Delta Surprise #1 Class Change prices are officially getting SLASHED by 600 Varium! The new price will be only 900 Varium!

Robots: It tends to be ignored becuase people go oh just go win one in the arcade. Sure the better robot is in the arcade that you cna have but the prize rate is only 26.4% so how likely is it that a F2P will have a robot in all my time ive only seen two
Weapons/Armor: Sure you paid you should get better stuff but not that much better i mean really

All in all everyone is a loser either you drain your wallet trying to stay one step ahead or you lose half of the time frankly i would rather lose

< Message edited by One Winged Angel1357 -- 6/28/2011 16:10:30 >


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6/28/2011 16:11:10   
Lectrix
Member

@Light Stridr: I realize that, but some of the other posts in this Thread show signs of Varium vs. non-Varium flaming. I am simply reminding everyone to stay on topic.
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6/28/2011 16:25:25   
sha 2nd mage
Member

well the game is getting more and more expensive day by day. 10000k varium is just worth for a single update.
on the next update again u have to buy 10k varium cz u will get out dated with u gears. even if u have variums u cant buy any thing cz it comes only with the 10k varium pack.

i dont want to say any thing about Non varium. they are just struggling to get some wins.

i would suggest to get a clean start with the new classes that too with F2P.

http://www.epicduel.com/charpage.asp?id=sha%202nd%20mage

< Message edited by sha 2nd mage -- 6/28/2011 16:46:23 >


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6/28/2011 16:30:52   
xxmirxx
Member
 

quote:

Mir i dont see Tungsted fist or Charfade helm in your achievement list but i see them in mine so think about that

I didn't brother to fight boss because those don't get you in good faction nor I haven't try making attempt to fight boss. beside I rather buy my achieve first.
AQ Epic  Post #: 15
6/29/2011 2:41:04   
DillBagel
Member

@ Light Stridr some of your points are invalid.
Class change: can be purchased with credits in delta, it's also being reduced in price.
Robots: the assault was made an arcade prize a long time ago.
Houses: there is also an arcade prize there.
Enhancements: credits as well.

Educated posts rather than assumptions would be nice. =)

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AQW Epic  Post #: 16
6/29/2011 2:46:46   
goldslayer1
Member

its change.
non vars are getting credit class changes (IDC how much it cost be glad u got it)
varium class change price went down.
and with the varium packages we get FOUR (4) weapons as a promo. not 1 not 2 and not 3 but 4.
AQW Epic  Post #: 17
6/29/2011 2:50:06   
DillBagel
Member

@Gold 4 level 33 weapons even (I think). That puts beta weapons to complete utter shame (And every other promo ever).
AQW Epic  Post #: 18
6/29/2011 2:52:46   
Nexus...
Member

@Gold

Getting all those weapons from the promo could be viewed as a balance problem, as well as a ripoff of the Beta weapons/slap in the face to supporters, but whatever. Not going to argue with you about that :D

Non-Var got class change...you call that change? Do you have any idea how long they have been waiting for that? There should have been a credit option the second it went live, and since there wasn't, people have been begging for a year and half straight. Yeah, so we get a credit option for class change. About freakin time. Jesus.

The new classes are going to OP the old ones. I swear by it. Im going to stand in fortune and preach it all night. If they don't, I'll be very happy I was wrong.

SO anyway, I don't see Delta as being a holy shining light at the end of the doom cave.

But lest wait and see while I preach doomsday like a Maniac :D

EpicE4
Epic  Post #: 19
6/29/2011 2:58:46   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

Getting all those weapons from the promo could be viewed as a balance problem, as well as a ripoff of the Beta weapons/slap in the face to supporters, but whatever. Not going to argue with you about that :D

yeah but u cant really compare i mean beta weps came out like in january or feb of 2009 right?
its been long before that. u cant expect lvl 25 weps to be stronger than lvl 33 weps. in fact they come very close to beating the lvl 33 weps in the suggestion shop with 28 stats except for the damage it has.
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