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10/2/2011 1:00:15   
Stabilis
Member

Should we start working on ED to be more realistic? Do you think we can work on balance by using this approach? Yes? No?

If we worked on realism in ED these would be examples of change: Guns improve with tech or dex. Auxiliary improves with tech or dex. Intimidate improves with strength. Defense matrix improves with tech. Technician improves with energy. Overload improves with tech. Malfunction improves with tech. I'm not going to touch super charge because its broken. Smokescreen improves with support (because smokescreens are support/tactic devices, techy as they may be [helps with malfunction buffs as well]). Multi shot improves with tech. Reflex boost improves with energy. Stun grenade improves with support or tech.

Lets face it, ED can be messed up. Majority of our skills are products of technology... so why aren't most influenced by it (requires tech/improves with tech)? Also, why oh why is there MAGIC in ED? I thought this was scientific warfare with a touch of fiction and fantasy... NOT pure mythology in ways.

Lets have a momentous discussion of ED's current status against realistic measures.
AQ Epic  Post #: 1
10/2/2011 1:06:08   
drinde
Member

1. Shouldn't Intimidate be affected by HP? The larger you are, the more intimidating.

2. I feel like guns should improve through DEX, as in the term "Quick Draw".

3. Exactly why would Malfunction improve with TECH? SUPP is logical since you have technical support, but technology doesn't help you break a machine.

4. What magic?
DF MQ Epic  Post #: 2
10/2/2011 1:33:17   
Stabilis
Member

When I say malfunction improves with tech it is because as normal technology grows so do its glitches and hacks. But yes malfunctions can come from a support unit administering the bugs.

When I say magic I mean using your energy for spiritual abilities (firing a bolt of plasma from your hand) such as plasma bolt as it is nearly impossible for humans regardless of exposure to "varium" to control and manifest levels of plasma in the body.

The brain can't monitor plasma so it is very unlikely to be casting it freely from your actions. Do you understand where I'm coming from?

< Message edited by greenrain13 -- 10/2/2011 1:59:05 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 3
10/2/2011 2:04:17   
drinde
Member

Then maybe when we play the TechMage class, we are actually the energy controlling a human body to act as a channel to flow out from? I don't see where we channel plasma through our palm though. 'Sides the battle icon, we launch it through our Staffs.
DF MQ Epic  Post #: 4
10/2/2011 3:44:43   
Algorithm
Member

Nope.
Post #: 5
10/2/2011 5:49:09   
Wootz
Member

Someone uses Surgical Strike and marks a circle around your character.
Why don't you just move out of it?
Someone uses multi, why can't you just move 'cause you see it when it is moving towards you.
Why don't the torches and chainsaw like weapons cut you open and/or burn you to death?
AQW Epic  Post #: 6
10/2/2011 6:42:43   
Xendran
Member

Why are the guns the size of your thigh?
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 7
10/2/2011 6:44:35   
goldslayer1
Member

@xendran
they must be 50 calibers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEi_m5jqak0
its pretty huge

< Message edited by goldslayer1 -- 10/2/2011 6:46:08 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 8
10/2/2011 11:58:19   
Midnightsoul
Member

with this kind of discussion, this game needs to be more like a board game. so, everything is the same except we can now move around and have action points to see how many spaces we move (improved by technology or dexterity) and u get 3 times the amount with a bike. i think the game would be more fun like that. this can actually lead group vs group battles. ;D
DF AQW Epic  Post #: 9
10/2/2011 13:17:13   
The Death Trap
Member

Uhh not really Since its a future based game
AQW Epic  Post #: 10
10/2/2011 14:44:58   
PivotalDisorder
Member

the game is set on an entirely different planet, considering the current constraints on space travel for the human race, I'd say their is a possibility we evolved,
and now can handle the effects of varium, like we can with radiation [yes we can handle a lot of radiation contrary to popular belief]
Post #: 11
10/2/2011 16:38:52   
nico0las
Member

ED? Realistic? That's like taking dragons out of dragonfable.
@below Exactly.


< Message edited by nico0las -- 10/2/2011 17:54:10 >
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 12
10/2/2011 17:40:26   
AQWPlayer
Member

^
Or taking mechas out of MechQuest lolz
AQW  Post #: 13
10/2/2011 18:09:07   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 What makes sense the least to me is the fact that EpicDuel takes place on a distant planet yet it still has people from Earth talking about how unrealistic it is. How does that work even? It's so far away from us we shouldn't know it exists let alone complain about its physics.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 14
10/2/2011 19:04:24   
PivotalDisorder
Member

Girls can fire bazookas as accurately as men? no way you will ever get realism on ED.
most women can't even fire a handgun without smacking themselves in the face....just saying

< Message edited by psibertus -- 10/2/2011 19:05:09 >
Post #: 15
10/2/2011 19:07:50   
Stabilis
Member

I heard people talking about handling "varium" radiation, relating DF to ED and MQ to ED...

Even if the body can handle a "lot" of radiation how long until we get cancer? Boom.

I'm sorry ED doesn't have dragons or goblins and other assorted ugly creatures unfortunately . Plus no, hazards aren't ugly they just need some tlc.

And MQ, you say it is not realistic? Gundam suits are not too far away!

EDIT: Wow psi that was insensitively sexist. Now you've gone and made some random girl cry.

< Message edited by greenrain13 -- 10/2/2011 19:09:08 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 16
10/2/2011 19:11:30   
Aere
Member
 

 Why do we respawn after death.
AQW Epic  Post #: 17
10/2/2011 19:14:00   
Stabilis
Member

So we can be entertained!
AQ Epic  Post #: 18
10/2/2011 19:19:31   
Aere
Member
 

 That's not realistic. Even if we were only knocked unconscious, I think the brain damage that would occur over time would surely put our characters out of commission.
AQW Epic  Post #: 19
10/2/2011 19:30:01   
Retrosaur
Member
 

 @Psibertus

quote:

Girls can fire bazookas as accurately as men? no way you will ever get realism on ED.
most women can't even fire a handgun without smacking themselves in the face....just saying


That was sexist. Just saying. You should watch your mouth kid.

Also.

quote:

we can with radiation [yes we can handle a lot of radiation contrary to popular belief]

Tell that to the Japanese. Tell that to those guys over at Fukushima. Tell that to Pennsylvania's Three-Mile Island incident. Tell them that we "can handle a lot of radiation".

Here to further prove my point that we have brash and arrogant forumers:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_disaster

< Message edited by hypedxlord -- 10/2/2011 19:35:26 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 20
10/2/2011 19:30:36   
Stabilis
Member

@Aere,

That would be extremism! I want to still be playing even when all of my particles become dark matter.

< Message edited by greenrain13 -- 10/2/2011 19:31:15 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 21
10/2/2011 19:35:06   
PivotalDisorder
Member

@Greenrain: can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs [or a borderline sexist joke without insulting a feminist]

we are exposed to radiation everyday. no idea how long Delta V's inhabitants have been exposed to varium, or how similar it is to radiation. just saying it is
not out of the realm of possibility that humans evolved to be able to somehow get energy from varium and channel it, similar to how we do now with food.

its not like their are any hot dog vendors
Post #: 22
10/2/2011 19:36:53   
Retrosaur
Member
 

 This is a sci-fi game for a reason. End of argument.

quote:

we are exposed to radiation everyday.

Yup, that's right. We're exposed to UV radiation daily which is deadly to the skin and can cause melanoma or skin cancer. Also we're exposed to many radio waves and many other waves from the various electronics that may also cause brain damage as stated by scientists in some studies. Sponsored by the government. What now?

< Message edited by hypedxlord -- 10/2/2011 19:39:24 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 23
10/2/2011 21:00:05   
PD
Member
 

 I think ED should start becoming more real.

Let's start with all the weapons. Not all of them need to look shiny and heavily detailed, and heavy in general.

I like a simple sleek style to my stuff. You know, so it doesn't take a FIVE yo EIGHT hours to make ONE weapon...
Post #: 24
10/2/2011 21:09:04   
PivotalDisorder
Member

I wouldn't mind that idea applying to armor. seems a shame the last cool looking armors were the varium 29 sets.
now they are overly detailed, bulky, unisex [except Tesla wasn't unisex] and not class specific.
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