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4/22/2012 19:39:53   
Silent blood
Member

poison does 12-13 dmg for 3 turns (at max)
do you think poison should be able to be
debuffed by assault bot so say someone poisons
you and you use assault bot special and make it
like -3 for 3 turns, but what do you guys think?


*dont delete this post please, i just wanna see what other players think* :)
Epic  Post #: 1
4/23/2012 8:21:26   
PivotalDisorder
Member

You can debuff Bio Borg, so yeah I think you should be able to debuff Poison.
Post #: 2
4/23/2012 8:23:25   
drinde
Member

But Poison is the only way to defeat the Mega-Tanks with like 40 DEF and 33 RES...
DF MQ Epic  Post #: 3
4/23/2012 8:26:40   
PivotalDisorder
Member

but you would gain an extra turn when they use assault bot :)

which tanks are we talking about here Drinde?
Post #: 4
4/23/2012 8:34:22   
drinde
Member

Tactical Mercenaries and Cyber Hunters, mostly, with a sprinkling of Mercenaries.

I can provide proof:

Exhibit A - Focus Tank
Exhibit B - Heal-Looper
DF MQ Epic  Post #: 5
4/23/2012 8:47:47   
PivotalDisorder
Member

well that is the 3 classes with passive armours. I think it's more a problem with those skills completely breaking the game,
at least in the case of Mineral and Plasma Armour. if they were removed, would you consider Poison being debuffable?
Post #: 6
4/23/2012 8:50:55   
drinde
Member

Sure, but maybe debuffed as in removes a TURN of poison, not 80%, as it is an interesting skill to use in strategies. :P
DF MQ Epic  Post #: 7
4/23/2012 9:30:15   
Psycho Slayer
Member

sorry but this is quite non sense .
i dont think a skill that costs 33 mana points be debuffed and or give your opponent health
In my eyes the skill is bad enough as it is and should be slightly enhanced in a way not debuffed.
Post #: 8
4/23/2012 12:05:45   
Ranloth
Banned


 I'm with Psycho. Tanks exist, even without passive Armors. Examples can be Dex/Tech BMs and TMs as well as BHs, whatever combination. Poison is good as it is, it's unblockable damage yes but you can do the same but in 1 hit with skills like Plasma Bolt/Fireball or any damaging ones. Players that go for high/max Poison usually will need points in other skills to be effective as well as good defences and attack.
Poison wasn't the problem before Evolved classes nor before CHs were buffed so skill is fine. Bot already debuffs way too much so this is really making skill useless - if Poison can be debuffed then why not debuff all the other skills rather than kill one completely; non Variums have Rusted bot and Variums have Assault, Bio or Azrael so Poison would be rendered useless skill aka needing a buff? e.e
AQ Epic  Post #: 9
4/23/2012 14:08:37   
Stabilis
Member

This post is in the wrong thread, but hello.

Poison is great, OP because it is damage independent, UP for energy consumption.

< Message edited by Depressed Void -- 4/23/2012 14:13:17 >
AQ Epic  Post #: 10
4/23/2012 16:38:46   
MrBones
Member

Poison always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I wonder what they put in this stuff anyway.

I demand to know how many calories, saturated fat and cholesterol is in that thing.

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Epic  Post #: 11
4/23/2012 16:40:34   
rayniedays56
Member

A nice 5 focus poison build with a huge amount of support equals a Fun Time xD
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 12
4/23/2012 16:49:26   
felixossom
Member

lol this is funny
if poison can get debuffed then TLM will be left with nothing lol
anyway i think poison is good the way it is. if they start twiking it they will
end up messing everything up.
i hate when i get poisoned but i don't think it needs be debuffed.


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Epic  Post #: 13
4/23/2012 17:26:09   
Lord Machaar
Member

Poison build have been already nerfed, and 5 focus got affected also, so i don't think there is reason to debuff it again...

EDIT: True Pivotal :]

@Pivotal-
quote:

I think you meaned nerfed Machaar


I think you Meant nerfed Machaar

< Message edited by Lord Machaar -- 4/24/2012 19:01:39 >
MQ Epic  Post #: 14
4/24/2012 7:36:31   
PivotalDisorder
Member

quote:

Poison build have been already debuffed, and 5 focus got affected also, so i don't there is reason to debuff it again...
I think you meaned nerfed Machaar
Post #: 15
4/24/2012 14:10:52   
T.R.O.N.
Banned


 So.. you guys are whining about that tactical needs to get nerfed until it doesnt even have point to play with? Dont whine because you just havent bought same much varium that they did and thats why they are better than you, just find a better strategy. Its not unfair, its fair because people who have paid for varium really deserve to win others.
Epic  Post #: 16
4/25/2012 0:11:12   
Ez_Ease
Member

I am a TLM and I dont use poison, but it is fine where it is at.
No one ever deserves to win under no circumstances, it must
be earned. I do believe in having an edge but not a guaranteed
victory.
Epic  Post #: 17
4/25/2012 5:37:16   
Darkwing
Member

no debuff to poison, we don't want to kill the skill. The only thing about poison: it should be the same for evry class: TLM poison has no requirement, 39 poison damage+ initial damage that can't be blocked.

< Message edited by Darkwing -- 4/25/2012 7:06:29 >
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