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4/28/2012 17:14:51   
Laufey
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 However, it is a long time that the weapons and armor are all pro promo high strength / dex / tech and no high support

Here are some examples:

New Delta knight armor (pro strengt/dex/) + 5/5 and +10 enhanced slot
beast armor (pro support) +9 def / res, and enhanced only 8 slots .... why?

Weapons promo pro high strengt/dex/tech : bionic, azrael curse, spectral, Draconic, frost destroyer.
The only pro high support are delta (although there is always an improvement for the strengt) and harvest ... why???

auxiliary weapons: only pro high strengt/dex/tech (lagamorph,physical eggzooka,caterpillar,wraith cannon ) only energy eggzooka pro high support ( last year !!!!!! ).


Sidearm pro high strengt ( machine blaster,dark star ,skullfire,frostbolt,egg gun ) pro high dex (kurz elite ),only high support ( egg laser )

Why not take a primary weapon with promo features pro high support?

Example

dex +11
tech +4
supp +11
enhancemnt slot +10

requiremnt ::
dex +33
tech +37
sup +34

reduction strengt 13%

Sorry for google translate.

Nazgul


< Message edited by Laufey -- 4/28/2012 17:34:56 >
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4/28/2012 18:27:31   
Wootz
Member

quote:

New Delta knight armor (pro strengt/dex/) + 5/5 and +10 enhanced slot
beast armor (pro support) +9 def / res, and enhanced only 8 slots .... why?


Delta Knight is more like an Ultra Rare which is marked by a phase. Beast Rider, thats more like a seasonal, who knows. Maybe it'll come back this winter!

Maybe we'll see some Support-like someday.
If you enhance all of the "pro high support" you'll get a great Support modifier.
And I rarerly see a Support build. The last one I saw was by LadyHeartbreak last week, and she completly destroyed me. Her Auxiliary damage was 26-32 +8 with E Bunnyzooka or whatever the Auxiliary is called. I don't remember the other items she got.
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4/28/2012 22:07:34   
LadyHeartbreak
Member

Yeah that build was pretty fun. That was my old TLM Support build back in the days. Its still pretty decent and fun to use but definetly not how it used to be. The FM nerf was one thing but losing deflection too definitely killed that build.
And I used Harvest Reaper, Dark Varium Blaster, Frost Reaper E, and E Eggzooka. But you can also use weps like Frost Destroyer, Kurz Elite, NW Duds E. All little or no str modifiers and no str requirements either.
One thing that build was good for was 2v2. I did 50 wins with way over 80% ratio. But in 1v1 its just a build for fun. A support build in any class won't get you pass 90% win rate w/o npcs. So there's really no use in asking for weapons for high support builds cause those builds are dead, at least for the time being.
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4/28/2012 22:31:30   
Lord Machaar
Member

^ agreed with that ma'am ...

When they nerfed support build, by taking off heal improvement from it, and some blah blah blah about so many effects so they took off deflection either, they killed the build and the support build went rare, juggernauts battle mode got affected team battle mode as well, maybe solo too, but they made a big mistake, actually it wasn't a nerf, it was a kill, they killed that build... like a sacrifice for strength builds which i didn't like...


So no need to ask for supporty weapons anymore, since the build is dead...

< Message edited by Lord Machaar -- 4/28/2012 22:32:04 >
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4/29/2012 7:34:01   
Wootz
Member

Well said Lady, well said! :)
AQW Epic  Post #: 5
4/29/2012 7:37:26   
RageSoul
Member

Yes , bring back Support!
AQW Epic  Post #: 6
4/29/2012 9:07:31   
DestruRaGe
Member

Just every realease make +1 weapon with support! That way who wants support will be able to get it!
Its not fair that ppl who likes support builds cant get new weaps for it!

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4/29/2012 9:10:31   
Ranloth
Banned


 I wouldn't mind some new Support items, always better as I use same weapons for quite a while now, except for the Armor. xD Although first, I'd like to see Support buff ofc. ;)
AQ Epic  Post #: 8
4/29/2012 16:28:44   
LadyHeartbreak
Member

I would love a buff on support as well! :D Cause now if you want fast wins your only option is a str build, specially after the caster and SC TM nerf. Personally I like playing with fast and fun builds, it fits my style of playing. But unfortunately fast and fun tend to be overpowered so it gets nerfed. So I challenge the devs to buff support just enough so its actually useable but not overpowered. I hope thats not too much to ask :)

Buffing support will also help with variety of builds out there. I might be wrong but right now its all about str and dex builds. If you wanna compete its these two you have to train. Sure 5 focus builds are great as well but for a player like me I find them boring and slow (no offense to 5 focus players out there). So what I'm basically saying is if the devs buff support, people will actually start putting stats in it and open up for a lot of new and maybe old builds to come alive! :)

< Message edited by LadyHeartbreak -- 4/29/2012 16:58:52 >
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4/29/2012 21:43:51   
ScarletReaper
Member

Oh how I miss my support tacmerc! Plllleeeeaaaasssseeee fix support!! Will make the game much more fun. :p

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4/29/2012 22:21:36   
Stabilis
Member

I want to play EpicDuel knowing that Strength exploiters are having themselves served in a French soup because some awesome underdog Support exploiters are bouncing them!

< Message edited by Depressed Void -- 4/29/2012 22:22:11 >
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4/30/2012 11:04:55   
King Helios
Member

A level 24 Mercenary, nonvarium, can get a +34 Support boost with little requirements and no enhancements.

Lawman's Special (gun)(27): +0 +0 +0 +13
Dark Leviathan (sword)(25): +6 +0 +0 +12
Boar 79 (aux from mission)(20): +4 +0 +0 +4
Power Armor (armor)(28): +6 +0 +0 +5

Support is more abundant at lower levels. Lawman's Special is the most support of any gun (for 6K credits!), and a comparable gun at higher levels, Jade Magnum, is 1K Varium and gives 3 less support, but more Strength and Technology.
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4/30/2012 20:52:12   
PivotalDisorder
Member

@Depressed: Str builds always wreck my support TLM, it can be so one sided it's not even funny :(

I definitely hope the staff still buff the other aspects of support like they said they would, is it possible to see how well support builds do on balance tracker?
Post #: 13
4/30/2012 22:41:39   
Midnightsoul
Member

currently, i play with 67 str AND support in my focus build. I find it very useful...but yes, I miss watching support builders so please bring them back...


-Midnightsoul
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