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7/26/2012 8:47:09   
spectra phantom
Member

Ok no massacre is what makes bountys/cybys OP

so my idea is to make massacre do damage like it is supposed to by this i mean if the guy has 5 massacre which gives 96% more damage right? and he hits around 12 with normal strike and right now with massacre he would still hit around 40

so heres my idea when he gets 96% dmg boost from mass he does nearly 2x normal strike not 3x+ or more because that does not make any sense and that is what makes massacre OP
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7/26/2012 8:51:20   
midnight assassin
Member

Are you going to kill bounty hunters? Massacre can be negated by energy draining skills so it's not op and it takes 3 warm up before a player can use it.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 2
7/26/2012 9:01:04   
spectra phantom
Member

cant be countered at cyber hunters and im not trying to kill im just trying to make skill the way it is supposed to be or if it is not meant to be like this then it should be marked on the skill
AQ Epic  Post #: 3
7/26/2012 9:09:15   
roborapter1493
Member

@Spectra I'm guessing you are a lower lvl or a Blood mage? If you wish that massacre should be nerfed... Why don't you ask a similar question like can I have 100 more defense or resistance against it... Massacre is currently the only thing that keeps hunters alive against str BM's or Tank builds in general. The funny thing is that we hunters have weaknesses because of the use of massacre, we have to keep at least 33 energy for 3 whole rounds, and we cant invest the skill points in many other skills. And with the current str BLood mage build it is either luck thats keeps us alive for 3 rounds or high HP.
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7/26/2012 9:24:17   
JariTheMighty
Member

The skill description lacks information, it's for the old massacre, which was:

((Str damage + Weapon damage) - Opponent's defense) x 1.96


How the damage is calculated for level 5 massacre today:

(Str damage + Weapon damage + (Weapon damage x 0.96)) - Opponent's defense


That's why you can hit 3 damage normally but then hit over 30 with massacre.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 5
7/26/2012 9:53:56   
spectra phantom
Member

It does need a little nerf tho...not too big but lil one so it wouldnt just destroy anything in its path because we all know CHs/Bhs r the most OP classes atm
AQ Epic  Post #: 6
7/26/2012 9:59:17   
Ranloth
Banned


 No it doesn't. CHs aren't too strong because of Mass but Plasma Armor and Str BHs are only problem not all, and they will be getting changed sometime (CS removed for new skill; Energy, improves with Tech, unblockable, maybe will ignore % of defences but not much; Energy and Smoke won't go together, Dex already has Multi for unblockable and Tech BHs are like non-existant).

All passives will be revamped if not being already slowly worked on which will affect PA obviously and bring its power down thus making CHs balanced.
AQ Epic  Post #: 7
7/26/2012 10:45:24   
rej
Member

Not supported. Both of the other class specials have massive bonuses like defense ignore and health vampire, making them already better than Massacre in at least one aspect.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 8
7/26/2012 11:57:05   
doomturtle
Member

Massacre is one of the best balance skills because it requires high support. So it doesn't need a buff and it's as good as the other classes super attacks like surgical strike and super charge

Edit: I meant it doesn't need a DEBUFF not a buff sorry

Posts merge. ~Mecha

< Message edited by Mecha Mario -- 7/26/2012 14:04:32 >
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7/26/2012 12:42:17   
midnight assassin
Member

quote:

we all know CHs/Bhs r the most OP classes atm

I disagree with bh being the most op class at this moment. I would be happy if they will remove this skill to ch.
MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 10
7/26/2012 12:56:22   
ansh0
Member

Well Massacre does not reduce opponents rage nor does it ignore opponents defenses.

It does RAW damage.

What's wrong with variety in skills?
Epic  Post #: 11
7/26/2012 13:51:09   
DRAGONHUNT
Member

No... just no.

Bounty Hunters are probably the most challenging class in the game, imo, and without their massacre ability we'd be eliminated in (nearly) every encounter.

But then again, that's just my opinion. However I am still saying NO to this as massacre is my most powerful ability.
AQ MQ Epic  Post #: 12
7/26/2012 14:02:59   
Mecha Mario
Mechanized Plumber


 All balance suggestions, and discussions belongs in the balance thread. The Reminders on Posting did mention where to post for balance suggestions.

quote:

Balance Suggestions
These types of suggestions do not belong here and still should go to the Balance Discussion Thread in the EpicDuel General Discussion. Changes to class skills, stats or suggestions of new skills or stats are considered this type of suggestion.


For that reason, locking this up.
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