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12/10/2012 6:17:07   
comicalbike
Member

i only ask as it seems to be random at the moment and is not by support so what should it be
i think to make the game fair all lower players should start first and the same level random

< Message edited by comicalbike -- 12/11/2012 3:33:54 >
Epic  Post #: 1
12/10/2012 6:18:47   
midnight santa
Member

for me, start first must be deciding of levels, supports, variums and den rank so legend like u can be happy?
Epic  Post #: 2
12/10/2012 6:26:03   
goldslayer1
Member

@midnight
unless varium gear increase the chance of going first over non vars. i dont agree.
AQW Epic  Post #: 3
12/10/2012 7:59:18   
Drianx
Member

I think who goes first should be absolutely random, regardless of level, varium, support or whatever.
AQW Epic  Post #: 4
12/10/2012 8:12:43   
goldslayer1
Member

@drianx
"random" caused me to go first 25% of the time the other day vs lvl 35s.

15% of the time vs players with lower support than me.
AQW Epic  Post #: 5
12/10/2012 8:13:42   
zion
Member

Support is nerfed as it is... why can't it just be based on support? If not support, wouldn't field medic have to improve with support again?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 6
12/10/2012 8:19:08   
goldslayer1
Member

@zion
the change to field medic never made sense to begin with.

all it did was allow for str and tank builds with extra skill points to have a powerful heal over other players.
AQW Epic  Post #: 7
12/10/2012 9:16:52   
Stabilis
Member

Highest Support value starts guaranteed!
AQ Epic  Post #: 8
12/10/2012 9:27:40   
ansh0
Member

Looks of loadout.



/thread
Epic  Post #: 9
12/10/2012 9:34:47   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Support should because it has always been the stat that decides who goes first.
AQW Epic  Post #: 10
12/10/2012 10:33:13   
Darkwing
Member

50% player level and 50% support.
Post #: 11
12/10/2012 10:43:55   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

Support should because it has always been the stat that decides who goes first.

yesterday i recorded 50+ battles vs lvl 35s only, where
i went first 25% of the time.

and i went first 15% of the time against players with LESS support than me, (even if its just a few, i should still be going first half the time at the least)

i agree that it should be support, but it needs to be more balanced.
AQW Epic  Post #: 12
12/10/2012 10:53:26   
Angels Holocaust
Member

The only deciding factor for going first should be support. It's there for a reason. We don't have to make things harder by adding extra stipulations. If a player has morw support, they should automatically go first. I feel as though the saying, the more you got the better you are does not apply to this.
Post #: 13
12/10/2012 11:08:15   
TurkishIncubus
Member

it should be random, starter has greater chance to win his opponent. I dont think any stat should effect the winning chance directly.
Epic  Post #: 14
12/10/2012 11:23:47   
Mysterion.
Member

@ Angels Holocaust

So a 5 lvl lower opponent should never start first in your opinion?
Well, then they will never be able to win from a 5lvl higher opponent.

Epic  Post #: 15
12/10/2012 12:24:51   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

quote:

yesterday i recorded 50+ battles vs lvl 35s only, where
i went first 25% of the time.

and i went first 15% of the time against players with LESS support than me, (even if its just a few, i should still be going first half the time at the least)

i agree that it should be support, but it needs to be more balanced.

Well then Support needs to be fixed. Or maybe the RNG is flawed.
AQW Epic  Post #: 16
12/10/2012 13:06:51   
Angels Holocaust
Member

If you're 5 levels below your opponent, the chances of you winning against a lv 35 is slim to none. The lv 35 has an extra 20 points from the level difference. Apart from the extra lv difference, their weapons are vastly stronger in terms if base attack and additional stat points.
Post #: 17
12/10/2012 13:07:35   
JariTheMighty
Member

^The RNG isn't flawed, it's just some bad luck everyone should get over with...

Plus players have the tendency to exaggerate things when getting frustrated because of few unlucky loses.

To stay on topic, I think it would have to be either completely random or fully decided by support. It would leave no place to complain about situations where something happens even when it shouldn't, like going first with lower support.
AQ DF Epic  Post #: 18
12/10/2012 13:10:09   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 I'm fine with the current system seeing as how higher stats should not guarantee you the advantage or having lower stats prevent you outright from having any luck.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 19
12/10/2012 17:31:23   
Mysterion.
Member

@ Angels holocaust

Isnt that a reason to let them start then, so they can actually have a chance?
And if not, isnt that a big balance problem?
You should always have a chance to beat someone, and you just take that away from then?
How selfish can you be as a fully enchanced lvl 35?

< Message edited by Mysterion. -- 12/10/2012 17:32:15 >
Epic  Post #: 20
12/10/2012 17:34:26   
ambien
Member

well lets see how many ppl dnt like this plan

let the best winning record start 1st since omega is brand new lets use wins and loses to see who goes first highest wins go 1st

why not let the record work once now

always the syfy


Post #: 21
12/13/2012 23:45:12   
  RabbleFroth
Member

To clarify, Support does increase your chance to go first.
Post #: 22
12/14/2012 0:22:46   
Shift3r
Member

^ What are the other factors affecting that?
Epic  Post #: 23
12/14/2012 0:23:40   
ND Mallet
Legendary AK!!!


 @shift3r Lower level characters in a fight get a better chance of going first as well.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 24
12/14/2012 0:34:59   
Shift3r
Member

^Yes understood,but I was referring to the factors affecting first turn assuming that both opponents have the same level,aside from support..Because while playing with a support-build-character and when I face a STR player,who has the bare minimum of Support requirement and he goes first..That means that he has something I don't have.
Epic  Post #: 25
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