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Verlyrus -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 16:12:51)

teehee! Thanks for saying what I said Nex! it gives it credit. :P
abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz
asrius dont forget there is the conversation!



kors -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 16:58:24)

mabye the "red herring" is our idea its braile mabye its like parts of a letter turned into dots and we have to add dots to make a letter and the clue?



Vinger -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 20:39:49)

Does braille is equal all around Terra?Because I'm in a site of my language,and i'm getting
b'óóáx!gúc
!!Ïéiw

as the 2 first lines.

@ont
maybe you're right.Your first translation has theworld in the end of second line,which can be separated to the world.So,we probably need a cipher here.



Nex del Vida -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 21:37:15)

...Perhaps the real message is in the stars in that little intro part where it says WarpForce. Here's a screenshot.



Vinger -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 21:56:46)

I doubt.It was already used on the previous enigma.

Based on the posted letter frequency by Devourer'Shadow,I did letter substititution.Because of them putting the concept of backwards,reflex,etc, I did letter substitution with the correspondent letter from the other side.A-Z,B-Y,C-X,D-W,etc.
Thats the letter frequency by doing this type of letter substituition.

o - 3
W - 3
F - 3
J -2
H - 2
T - 2
Q - 2
I - 1
K - 1
R - 1
X - 1
M - 1
C – 1
B - 1
A - 1

Look that he have nearly all the letters to form the word WarpForce.Only P and E are missing.
I think we have a mixture of ciphers.Each part of the message would be translated by a different cipher.I only hope that Fal didn't make a enigma based on complex ciphers.



Eldron -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 21:57:56)

My love must be a kind of blind love
I can't see anyone but you
Sha bop sha bop

Are the stars out tonight
I don't know if it's cloudy or bright
I only have eyes for you dear

The moon may be high
But I can't see a thing in the sky
I only have eyes for you

I don't know if we're in a garden
Or on a crowded avenue

You are here and so am I
Maybe millions of people go by
But they all dissappear from view
And I only have eyes for you



Nex del Vida -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 21:59:12)

Okay. Also, they do make several references to looking at each other in their text, so I think it's going to be something about the appearance of one or both of their characters.



final five -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 22:26:28)

What Eldron said mentions clouds, which we have also noticed, the bright stars, which we have been paying attention to, and lots of stuff that may hint that the clue is on Falerin or Eldron



Lkeas -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 23:09:43)

Well, I dunno what to make of it. I've zoomed in and scrutinized both Eldron and Falerin with a fine tooth comb and don't seem to see anything that would indicate a solution to our problem. Eldron's lyrics from "I Only Have Eyes for You" are mysterious as well. Are we supposed to disregard anything in the sky? What then is the point of putting Braille up there? Unless the song is just in reference to the key? In which case it might just be saying the key has something to do with the scene happening on the ground. Just not marshmallows, those are a red herring. [8D] Assuming again, of course, that we need a key...



Coldkick -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 23:46:06)

Other than what was stated above the song was by "The Flamingos"



ringulreith -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 23:53:07)

...Sorry, wrong tab...



Silverdragon -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/26/2009 23:57:55)

I'm still staring very closely at that cutscene, and the only things I have noticed are:
-The clouds do move at the begining, they just stop when Falerin and Eldron speak.
-The other stars almost seem to make a pattern (those that are occasionally hidden behind text bubbles). Anyone wants to play connect the dots?
-Eldron says "Mayhaps" at some point. I doubt it's a typo, maybe it's a clue.
-Eldron also seems to be stepping in the campfire

*grumbles* I feel like a fool looking at fingers...



Lord Asrius -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 0:22:45)

Mayhaps is an old-fashioned way of saying maybe.
Anyone tried checking the area that Eldron's stick is pointed at?



Coldkick -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 0:24:54)

I noticed the clouds as well. One thing though is that some of the clouds leave a trail at the ending.

In response to mayhaps...

mayhaps
adverb

1. (misspelling of, mayhap)
2. combination of maybe and perhaps to create intentional misspelling of mayhap


Just noticed a pattern in the stars to the left of the braille.....

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/3213/starpattern.jpg



Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 3:59:28)

pay attention to the lyrics.

a lot of times he's referring to being "blind"

secondly, he's talking about the clouds and stars.

thirdly he's talking about a bright moon. notice when warpforce sign disappears there's a bright moon that turns green for a split second before disappearing from view.

as for millions of people?

Well in space, people go by in starships. millions going by could be a branch of the network or warpforce.

This last part is pure speculation mind you. but the rest seems to fit with what Lord Eldron says.



hagayg -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 4:22:56)

Haven't commented in the forums for a LONG time :P
no one thought of that part in the song?:
"I don't know if we're in a garden
Or on a crowded avenue"
maybe the place the're at is important?
and I zoomed in to the max on almost every single inch of the picture, nothing to be found there.



goron link8 -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 10:47:34)

i am back



Scartiger -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 12:45:56)

Gosh... I finally finished reading everything... What a hard puzzle... I wonder if Red Herring has anything to do with Eldrons song..



Lord Asrius -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 13:58:20)

It could be, but it's related to so many things it'd be hard for it to be completely red. Or completely herring.



Dragonnightwolf -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 14:00:12)

I just had a thought. Wasn't there a blind seer in adventurequest? If I'm not mistaken he hangs out at the fireplace area in yulgars inn.

I just had a thought now, maybe we should try his name for the key to the cipher.


I'll take a quick peek and see if I can find any other ciphers we may have missed.


yep I found something that may just fit.


http://www.cybertrace.com/papers/thrmatak.html

didn't find any thing under flamingo ciphers. so this seems to be the only thing that may fit our current state.



Verlyrus -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 14:50:54)

quote:

You are here and so am I
Maybe millions of people go by
But they all dissappear from view
And I only have eyes for you


*cough* New Idea.

Has anyone gone over the ground after Fal and Eldron dissappear?



Eldron -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 15:43:18)

Wise old man once say"
"If one does not work try two,
if two does not work try three"

Crazy old man was too duplicitous for me!



Plushie -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 16:02:18)

Has fal been giving you lessons on EVIL, Eldron? I would give you A++

Could you just tell us what to do?


Pwetty pwease?[:)][:)][:)]

*guesses the answer is no*

EDIT:I have checked and there is nothing.



daneckenrode -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 16:11:07)

wow, hard to believe how much you miss just by being gone for 4 days(i've been following along just not commenting or sharing ideas), this does look like a decently hard puzzle though, too many different possibilities, it's possible that they're just leading everyone off and it really is just braile and is supposed to be mixed up and stuff lol.



Nex del Vida -> RE: =WF= A Mystery Continues (6/27/2009 16:16:47)

Huh... so now we have to do something with numbers, unless he just means "try other/more stuff."

This new clue doesn't have any articles in it--"Wise old man" rather than "A wise old man" and "Crazy old man" rather than "That crazy old man." Important?



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