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He Who Lurks -> Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 19:43:09)

Discuss why we should/shouldn't see an NPC's stats. I believe we should be able to for strategic reasons.



Avantir -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 19:45:39)

I think we should be able to see them, but I think we can't because they have skills from all classes, so their skill tree would be really messed up.



PlungerMistress -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 20:05:10)

We shouldn't be able to see NPC stats or boss NPC's would be too easy.



drekon -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 20:06:00)

Yes, they should allow you to view NPC stats in-game. However, they do provide the stats on the Epic Duel Wiki. To view an NPC's stats, simply click NPCs in the navigation menu on the left. Click the NPC you wish to see. If it's an NPC that can be challenged, then there should be a Strategy link on that NPC's page. Click that strategy link to view their stats and the recommended strategy to defeat them.



stryker914 -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 21:01:35)

i recommended this long ago...it was vetoed for a reason.
would make it way too easy



Larcell -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 21:06:14)

We should...some of them hack. *cough* George Lowe



highnoonnoob -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 21:13:47)

I disagree for mainly one reason, then the bosses would be easy because their skills are less of a mystery......


@Larcell, LOL



Wraith -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 21:41:51)

^Oh? And you have some awesome, 100% Guaranteed build to beat George Lowe?


OT: Just make it a on/off thing. If you want a challenge, OFF. If you just want a achieve, ON.



stryker914 -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 21:58:50)

what i DO think is that NPC's should only have TEN MORE skill points that what their level allows.



Algorithm -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 22:25:15)

Sorry, in my opinion you should always try something (on ED) thats suppose to be a challenge such as boss NPC's with your original build and find out what the NPC's weakness is, so when you lose or win you can make a revised build that fits the standards of defeating the NPC.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 23:12:06)

it be nice to see their stats but they are going to be easy to beat. i really want to see tuna skill tree i was very shock when she used a energy bubble when i tried using a high str to beat her. tuna is weird i had no other tech weps but my sword.



Algorithm -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 23:15:23)

^Exactly my point, being able to see their stats just makes the whole "Boss NPC" to "Easy NPC".



voidance -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 23:20:51)

@Lord Sinastr
I do, i have a build that can beat him with Frost weapons every time and a build archived in battle strategy that can beat him without use of Frost weapons.

@Anyone that thinks it should be shown.
Making it where you can see their stat layout would simply take the fun out of trying to achieve beating them.



BloodRainbow -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 23:57:10)

Ifm not understanding why ppl think it would make them easier to beat....

Look at it this way...

Your a lvl 27 nonvarium, fighting a lvl 32 varium players.
Does seeing there stats make them any easier to beat???
No, not at all, it just lets you know what your up against.

So i dont think it would be a problem at all to be able to see NPC's stats



King FrostLich -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/8/2011 23:58:21)

It's better to keep it secret. Besides, this game is all about the math and you find your calculation right then you got your answer just like how I found out BigTuna's stats.....(yes the NPC one)



eragonshadeslayer67 -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/9/2011 0:17:21)

never found any time where I needed a NPC's stats, so no

(boss NPCs r getting more and more easy due to new stuff like enhancements, now if we can see their stats............o_0)



ZirakogluED -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/9/2011 9:05:45)

Some reason i think we should and shouldn't if that makes sence O.o
No because it will be too easy
And yes so we can have a little hint what we are up against o.o
~Z



Oliver Bell -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/9/2011 11:20:13)

I think we should get to see the defence and resistance stats for NPC's, specifically ones which have a battle token cost to fight. I agree though that seeing the skills and other stats would make it too easy.



dragonfire4125 -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/10/2011 18:08:07)

We SHOULD be able to see NPC stats!



Alley Cat -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/11/2011 2:08:31)

I wouldn't want to see the NPC or BOSS NPC stats, it wouldn't be as challenging. I like the challenge because when I succeed it feels far more rewarding to me.



BlueKatz -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/11/2011 2:54:38)

That would be good

however... seeing NPC are having very cheaty cooldown warmup rate, I don't think NPC has same code as us



Xheroh -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (3/11/2011 2:56:42)

I think we should be able to see the NPCs stats. Besides, it wouldn't take the challenge out of it. It would probably work like vs another player, where you can choose whether to see them or not on your own accord.

~X



5rr5 -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (6/9/2011 13:05:57)

I think it's a great idea [:D]



MrBones -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (6/9/2011 13:10:17)

Yeah keep the stats hidden.

And I forgot who said this, you can go on EpicDuel wiki see see info about all npc. Thats more than enough.



Deimos... -> RE: Seeing an NPC's stats? (6/9/2011 13:44:01)

Its great but its true, their skill tree would be messed up. I think NPC's have more than one field medic too... Shadow guard can heal like without a cooldown, or just has 2 field medics... lol He once healed and 2 turns later he healed again.



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