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voidance -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/16/2011 6:07:04)

Learn to let things go pumpkin, i would do the same thing if i
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anyone who tries with all his/hers might to get deadly aim removed because its "OPed",
and nothing was done, It's dumb to say "well ima just tough it out so i dont look like a hypocrite". besides your pathetic excuse of a build depends on Deadly aim or you would just be limited to 1 attack every 4 turns.



Jacktaz -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/16/2011 9:01:59)

all right guys lets leave that part of the discussion there and get back on topic like i said what do you think is the most OP and UP class?



PumKing -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/16/2011 10:02:39)

Indeed, the point still stands that bh have now become top dogs around here, no one can contest against this, page one, i said the 3 oped builds, and they have only gotton more powerful, and gamma bot makes it so. Weakening hybrid armor has screwed over non var mercs because they can't debuff self, so some smart @$$ says "well they can just switch hybrid armor to make up the difference hyuk" wrong, they then leave their other stats exposed, now lets look at non-var mages they get smoked they can use phys sheild they get malfed they got tech boost, look at non-var bh's they get malfed they use energy sheild they get smoked they use dex increase, so then that same smart @$$ then says "well mercs got blood sheild, just let hybrid save them from smoke and use blood shield for malf" now we get an even worse problem for no var mercs, sure this may work, possibly for a var merc because you can boosts stats with awsome weps, but non var has to be able to do serious damage, and UNlike the bh and tm blood shield and hybrid armor are 4 teirs apart, mages are right next to each other, bhs a little father but to make up for it their dex booster lets them gain mp for taking damage, blood shield lets you gain res for taking your own life point, yeah, real solid help their devs



hardcore59 -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/16/2011 13:41:31)

Mercs: OP
Mages: UP



Jacktaz -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/16/2011 13:45:15)

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Mercs: OP
Mages: UP

OMG HERE WE GO AGAIN,
Allright seriously now.
mercs have been buffed enough.
i can understand mages but seriously?
i get PumKing's point. BH's are OPED atm because of our gamma bot strategy.
please stop picking out the mercs cause they have been nerfed and are now balanced imo.



Silver Sky Magician -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/16/2011 23:00:59)

I'm going to cut-and-paste this from another post I made:

To all who say that tech mages are UP...the person on the 1 v 1 leaderboard today, Celestine Eclipse, is a tech mage with a whopping 95.5% win rate. Which is incidentally higher than the win rate of anyone else on the leaderboard, excluding that of Narcissus, a bounty hunter with a win rate of 95.5%. What does this say? If the bounty hunter is OP because of his win rate, what about the mage?

Bluebird No. 1 is now a tech mage as well. Do you think he is just looking for a challenge? Maybe. Maybe not...



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 4:02:36)

Balance is a broad term. Balance would be build balance, high opportunity to compete comparing to other classes, or variety to compose a build within the class.

There was a time the classes were considered Rock, Paper, Scissors. In today's game, it is a person's build within the game of Rock, Paper, Scissors.

The elements I think make the game a challenge are these

5 focus- many love this build. Park and Attack, not much use of the skill tree. I think if it was reduced to 4, more skills would be used within their tree.

Class Change- I stated my reasons on Wiseman's thread. Builds are not overpowered, but when balance of community changes to one class to join the novelty, that makes the segment of the community Op'ed. Because this is revenue tied, I wished it could have more rules assigned to it. We are now able to make multiple accounts on one Log In, so is this feature really necessary anymore? Selective Class-Change would provide balance.

Current Weapon Enhancement system- I think the game went beyond what people expected when this feature was introduced. Though it feels awesome to have the additional power, the ability to compete between victor and loss should never be too great. I hope with the new weapons that will be released; I wish they slowly diminish the enhancements. I think a person would rather have more weapons instead of one that was paid double.





BlueKatz -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 4:14:22)

Mer is OP
Mage is UP

I'm not sure about BH, at highest lv they are insanely OP.
However at lower level they are the weakest

BH need to be balanced, they somehow abuse stats way more than any other class
meanwhile Mer is way too OP in 2vs2 and their powerful hit

however indeed BH should be "balanced" first, too weak at low level too strong at higher level



Aqua Lightning 98 -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 4:20:09)

Oh gosh. Seriously?

There is No Such Thing as Underpowered of Overpowered. Every class has its own special points and CAN win with the right build. All it takes is logic, time to think and strategy.

For those who think Mercs are Overpowered, the new Gamma Evolution 1.1.4e updates should help you see things from my perspective. And as for those who find Mages Underpowered, I can tell you that it is possible for them to have a +4 Focus build with 87 Supp and 94 Health. Now beat that. (BTW I'm a TM now!)

This has gone on for far too long. It's not about balance, it's about strategy!

@below, well lets say with 48 Str, 58 dex and 76 tech.



goldslayer1 -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 4:36:10)

@aqua
dude u can have a 5 focus with 87 support and 94 hp tech mage now.



Lord GaGa -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 4:50:26)

Why does everything have to turn into an argument?
lol



8x -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 5:41:10)

Whats the point of these threads? All people do is protect their favourite class and "flame" other two.



goldslayer1 -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 5:43:39)

^
i protect str mercs, and im a BH.
reason why i protect them is because they aren't OP as those who never been a str merc say it is.



jegaggin -> RE: What do you think is the most OP and UP class? (4/17/2011 5:44:09)

BH = OP
Merc and TM= UP
if only hybrid armor needs to be buffed we need lvl 10 for it to be effective.
Tech Mage because their caster skills definitely need to be buffed



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