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Angels Holocaust -> Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 14:35:40)

It's already been a year since Shaniqua said that famous quote, and it's as true as ever. With the introduction of Juggernaut, players have begun to revise their strategies. They realized that in order to beat a Juggernaut, old tactics like max supercharge, max berserker no longer work. They have now begun to invest their points into attacks that cannot fail like bunker buster, Artillary Strike, Hybrid armor, plasma bolt, and overload. It's really nice to see the community become better. Has anyone else seen these hidden soon to be pros in combat?



Sageofpeace -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 14:37:58)

@just as you say but some people don't see to evolve just watch as they try to flame you



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 14:40:51)

"Evole or Die" is not true. Also no I havent seen any of that happening in battle. Also you cant tell people to just die or quit because they cant evole if they dont know how to make a good build because no one showed them or because they cant afford to. That is a very biased statement which is invalid. So I have to strongly disagree with this.



Sageofpeace -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 14:42:09)

@ which is find since is your opinion not a fact



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 14:45:12)

Yes then it is fine.



Fay Beeee -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 14:50:29)

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xxmirxx -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 15:13:46)

Only thing I don't like you can't use booster.



One Winged Angel1357 -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 15:16:12)

If jugg requires old tactics i might pick up my caster build which drops some big numbers on players with low res which is most of the newbies



DunkThatOreo -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 15:50:12)

I agree with this, when something starts to change or evolve it doesn't wait for you
You have to adapt to it best way you can.



Pyure -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 16:03:04)

I know how it feels, i've been playing ever since beta's first day, first hour, and first minute. Missed Alpha by 2 hours :(



goldslayer1 -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 16:23:23)

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"Evole or Die" is not true. Also no I havent seen any of that happening in battle. Also you cant tell people to just die or quit because they cant evole if they dont know how to make a good build because no one showed them or because they cant afford to. That is a very biased statement which is invalid. So I have to strongly disagree with this.

evolve or die can also be compared to world wars.
for example when 1 faction had tanks, but the other one didn't. it gave the ones with tanks an advantage.
same with air plains.
eventually those factions had to evolve or they would die.
so yes evolve or die.



The Shadow Dragon -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 16:34:10)

''Evole or Die'' is kinda true, but i know a even better one. ''Pay or die'' This my friends, is 100% true.



Defiant -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 16:50:05)

Well uh, the quote is true.. But not in your context. I mean, I haven't seen any of this... Plus the fact no level 20's are going to beat a level 33 varium whether they assault you with Artillery Strikes or not.



Aere -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 16:52:01)

I'm remembering that time after Agility was introduced and you (and many others) complained a good bit.

Evolve or Die should be more so; Evolving shouldn't be taxed.



xxmirxx -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 16:57:17)

@ comicalbike
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yes shadronica you are right i have no problems with staff or mods but i do have problems with the game we need to tell them what are problems are we have with the game such as mine are game getting slower now as the game gets bigger wd completely useless now as it is so unbalanced and the juggernaut should be fighting a very strong npc or two weaker ones as it is the most boring thing i have ever tried



Sparticus -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 17:09:40)

While I have yet to see a player in a Juggernaut battle excel, it's certainly plausible to believe that lower level players will figure out winning tactics and builds to defeat a slew of Juggernaut builds. The pity of it is they will level up and the builds will quickly become useless to them. Unless these builds are passed down from non varium noob to non varium noob I don't know if any evolution is possible. I kind of wish i had a lower level noob alt to test out some ideas. In any case, good luck to the players facing the Juggernaut, you're going to need it.

(Disclaimer: no noobs were injured in the writing of this post and the use of the term noob was not meant to be derogatory in nature.)



DeathGuard -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 17:31:47)

Great players should implement low levels builds, I have 5 acc, my main, one 27 and 28, and one 15 and 9.
Most mages and I have find that caster builds still work with implement, such as malf+high dex+overload. I was surprised about it and try it in my main acc and it work perfectly in 1 vs 1 but it was a long battle but I was sure I wil lwin at the end. ''Evolve or Die'' Is just another phrase that keep us moving [:D].



Epic Pwnser -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 17:44:45)

It's more like pay or die.
Paying is part of "evolving".
Of course if you have varium leftover, you can use it to "evolve", but then you'll sooner or later, will have to buy more of this "opiate" sorta like drug users, to keep up with the changes.
Once in a while, I would say, buy the OPed weapon and buy nothing else.

Right now, it's the eng eggzooka.

Edit: And actually Angels Holocaust, Max Supercharge is INDEED not DEAD. It's actually more effective now since the end of focus to everything else.



edwardvulture -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 18:08:07)

Haha yeah its just buy or die now. Non-variums can't evolve without making their wallets drop a few ounces.



x666satan666x -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 18:13:44)

i have seen these players, ive been using my 170 dex build and the only players that manage to beat me are the smart malf and caster mages.



xxmirxx -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 18:19:45)

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Haha yeah its just buy or die now. Non-variums can't evolve without making their wallets drop a few ounces.


actually we can but are weps are outdated we need lvl 32 weps like auxs and guns.



Zean Zapple -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 18:35:27)

I remember this quote: It was always at the end of Dax's signature. It's a shame that people don't follow it.


~Zean



IsaiahtheMage -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 18:57:23)

@GoldSlayer Its Pay or Die even though I disagree with it,its true.



jegaggin -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 19:11:51)

in this u dont die -.- u get knocked out i think.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Evolve or Die! (5/18/2011 19:36:46)

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@GoldSlayer Its Pay or Die even though I disagree with it,its true.

well in real life wars, u need real money to support ur troops feed them, give them shelter, and medical supplies, and stuff to attack with, which ranges from knifes to hand guns to machine guns to tank, and then air support.



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