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Snaipera -> Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/11/2011 18:43:38)

This is really starting to bug me now . Every year they will grow a little stronger (most likely) . So basically ,once bought ,their power will increase . This ,compared to rares , is unfair . Take Rixties for example . Some of the best looking weapons . I believe every other seasonal-rare / rare item in the game has been given a buff . Anyone care to explain why Rixty Ripper and Soul Ripper were left out. I do not wish them to get seriously buffed , but what bugs me is that those are amazing weapons , rare , and they are equal to Frostbane and those Liberty Scythes (which are seasonal and will grow stronger). Why ?



edwardvulture -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/11/2011 23:12:31)

No one can buy them anymore, so devs find no point on buffing them.



Infinity Everlasting -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/11/2011 23:18:55)

This is a really good point, and the endless buffs that seasonal rares receive should be stopped to make this game more fair.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/11/2011 23:25:08)

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This is really starting to bug me now . Every year they will grow a little stronger (most likely) . So basically ,once bought ,their power will increase . This ,compared to rares , is unfair . Take Rixties for example . Some of the best looking weapons . I believe every other seasonal-rare / rare item in the game has been given a buff . Anyone care to explain why Rixty Ripper and Soul Ripper were left out. I do not wish them to get seriously buffed , but what bugs me is that those are amazing weapons , rare , and they are equal to Frostbane and those Liberty Scythes (which are seasonal and will grow stronger). Why ?

this would be EASILY solved if enhancements worked like they do on AQW where u get more stats depending on ur lvl. and every time u lvl up u can enhance any wep to ur current lvl and have decent weps (this includes every wep ingame even default staff)
obviously all weps will have to have their stats set out for every lvl .
for example

frostbane/azrael enhance with lvl 33 = +8 dex +8 tech +9 support + a % buff (kinda like azrael 5% crit well at lvl 33 it would be 6% and frostbane would get added with something else aswell)



AxeOFury -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 0:34:12)

I myself have both Rixties, and I have found them quite useless in most builds. Maybe because i'm mostly a bh. But i do think they could be given a little buff in the future. Fully enhanced, they add to the same stats as Frostbane, and Azreal's bane. So why would they need a buff at this current time?
-Axe



DillBagel -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 2:15:16)

@Aokuda Adding enhancement slots isn't a legitimate way to buff something. The last couple slots cost as much as a new weapon. Plus the Rixties have a nasty stat layout unless you find the perfect build. They have support and strength, so it's no good for either of those. :P
This should happen to bunnies too (I'm never letting it go trolololol) they were ripped off by the eggs. (Similar look, same stats, 4 more damage)



Snaipera -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 6:01:46)

@aokuda , why would they need buffing?

Because when they first came out ,they were stronger than Frostbane . They had 2 more stat points and 1 more damage point . Exactly why I bought the Soul Ripper in game . But then Frosty got into those ridiculous "promos" and god incredibly overpriced and ridiculously powerful (that's how the stat inflation began) and I said to myself-"no worries ,they won't let one of their coolest weapons go to waste" . I was wrong . Rixties are weak as hell now . Their stat distribution is just horrible . They might have the same stats and damage as Frosty and Azrael's Bane ,but overall , it loses in both requirements and usefulness . What has this game become,eh fellas :) This is what saddens me . Ignorance .

P.s : Don't even get me started about those new promos and that Celtic piece of garbage and how ridiculously stupid all those swords are . Not to mention the liberty energy sword or whatever , which is nearly equal to my Rixty thanks to seasonal buffs . Please , be fair at least.



Remorse -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 6:21:11)

What they could do is alow some sort of system to level up rares and seasonals alowing us to level up our rares, this could sap insentive to buy new wepons and we wouldn't what that now would we e.e, so they could make it you can only level rares up until 1 level below the level cap so 32 curently. wat does this mean?? frost bane, rixtys, all rares sword would be able to hit 32. the rare auxs such as bunnyzookas can hit 37 ! :O and finally the big one ready for it founder will have plus 8! armour. When the level cap rises we could upgrade our wepons to level 33 this means 33 for swrods 38 for auxs, and finaly founder has a nice plus 9 :O. Anyway just a thought :P



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 6:27:51)

@remorse
no no no
see, the old ones can be enhanced to current lvl but they wont be as good as top notch weps (like deltas)
for examples enhancing old weps would be a stat or 2 and a damage point or 2 off the current best weps



Remorse -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 7:13:22)

^ if their wasn't a slight gap in power then the devs would never ever implant this feature . Wanna know why? because they won't make mutch profit as incentive to buy new wepons would be gone if they could just upgrade the old ones. How do i know they are thinking this whay??? because i got a PM from cinderella about this idea that they would not implant anything that would cause any reduction of purchasing new wepons. As for special changes for certain situtation obviosoly this would be the case but i did not go into depth as this is merely a reply to a post rather than a detailed topic on the matter that i have posted a while ago. Btw. you could just ignore the little errors and agree that you like the idea?? As it's the idea that counts and nothing is set in concrete.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 7:21:01)

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^ if their wasn't a slight gap in power then the devs would never ever implant this feature . Wanna know why? because they won't make mutch profit as incentive to buy new wepons would be gone if they could just upgrade the old ones. How do i know they are thinking this whay??? because i got a PM from cinderella about this idea that they would not implant anything that would cause any reduction of purchasing new wepons. As for special changes for certain situtation obviosoly this would be the case but i did not go into depth as this is merely a reply to a post rather than a detailed topic on the matter that i have posted a while ago. Btw. you could just ignore the little errors and agree that you like the idea?? As it's the idea that counts and nothing is set in concrete.

then why not just tag the weapons and every year release a new stronger version of the old ones?
example
celtic cleaver 11
+4 str, +8, dex, +8 tech, +5 support 31 damage

Celtic Cleaver 12
+5 str, +8 dex, +8 tech, +5 support 32 damage

Celtic Cleaver 13
+5 str, +9 dex, +9 tech, +5 support 33 damage
this way its 3 different weps and each one stronger than the last ones.
what this causes is for the looks of old rare weps to be NEW weps and up to date in stats but a completely different item from the old one.
this way if said play has the 2011 version and he wants a stronger one. he has to be the 12 version. which is a completely different sword but the same in looks and such and tagged and stronger than the previous one.
this way the devs get more money from items and enhancements.



Remorse -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 7:34:49)

^ No offence but that is a bad idea.. This game needs to be more money conderving not money draining ( I thought this was Obvious) Would'nt you like the chance to have a decent set of strong rares that would always be sutable for battle?? I know i would. Having to purcahse the same wepon each year is well a bad idea... (put softly) Not only would inventory become all confusing it would also make alot more sence to just be able to level up wepons with a nice credit price. (or maybe a small varium price)

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this way the devs get more money from items and enhancements.


So what?? Make the old players have another cost slapped on them... Im pretty sure indivdualy this game gets way to much from playres than it deserves. If the game wants more money they could think of ways to get more custmoers rather then strangling eevry last cent out of it's current players.
P.S enhacements is nothing but a ripp off feature which has also caused unbalance in this game. Adding enhacements to side arms and auxes has to be one of the worst decesions made by the ED staff. Having it on Either just primarys or just armour would be reasonable.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 7:37:25)

@remorsed
well if ur old wep will be weaker compared to the new one
then u sell the old one and get credits and varium returned to u.
this is of course only when varium sell back % goes up.



MrBones -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 7:39:00)

I'm with goldslayer on this.

Each year the seasonal rares get a buff. If you don't already have it and you want it, you pay full price. If you have it you can pay for an upgrade, say hum 500 varium. With that, there will be only one Celtic Cleaver in your bag. Either a 2011 version or 2012 version depending on your choice. No need to sell anyhting. Pretty simple actually ;)



Remorse -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 8:11:31)

^ sweet idea, Im gussing aprox $200 to play this game without using outdated wepons.. (sarcasim)
If this idea comes in Im ditching this game because i dont wanna waste anymore money on this game, and im sure many will agree with me, if you guys want to continue playing paying constant amounts each year thats fine by me e.e



goldslayer1 -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 8:12:51)

@remorse
what he means is u pay 500 if u want ur wep to get buffed. stat wise and damage wise.
this way u dont have to buy a whole new wep.



Remorse -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 8:15:48)

^ OMG!! that was my whole idea... Pay a certain small amount to level up your wepon.. yet you guys disagree with me..



MrBones -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 11:34:06)

@remorse: i strongly suggest you read my post again. It was pretty clear. you pay 500 varium to update the rare you already have.

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Each year the seasonal rares get a buff. If you don't already have it and you want it, you pay full price. If you have it you can pay for an upgrade, say hum 500 varium. With that, there will be only one Celtic Cleaver in your bag. Either a 2011 version or 2012 version depending on your choice. No need to sell anyhting. Pretty simple actually ;)



Nehal007 -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 12:34:01)

rares shud b most strongest weapon bt they r not like take a luk at founders armr



The Astral Fury -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 13:19:49)

well there clalled rares right if there gone forever its makes them more powerful and special and its not like your being stoped from getting the rares too unless there varium but some are not



Nebula -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 13:22:33)

Rixties got buffed so they're at the same level as Frostbane in terms of stats. I agree every once in a while they should get buffed, perhaps so it is always 1 or 2 damage below the damage of weapons and the level cap and a few stats below.



DillBagel -> RE: Seasonal Rares & Their buffs (7/12/2011 13:27:53)

None of this would have been a problem if enhancements had been introduced in a way similar to AQW (which is how everyone wanted them).
Our problem also becomes how much power other players want. The old weapon could look way cooler but they'll jump for 2 stats.
I personally will still buy the cool looking weapon as well, there's always a build you can make for it.



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