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helloguy -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/8/2011 20:04:11)

I am going to brain wash him till I get it



BlueKatz -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/8/2011 22:58:36)

Ha! I knew something was wrong about Frenzy.

About the smoke, seem like a good thing. BH is always strong... this will hold em a bit, at least reduce the stupid block a little... but really no one use low Sup and lv 4 Smoke nowadays >.> Idk if this update do anything
And Tank STR TLM is impossible to beat, tx to their stat, they won't be effected by skill tree change



Hiddenblade -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 1:45:29)

support bounty with high smoke! we might see some creative builds maybe!



Midnightsoul -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 2:07:10)

what happened to malf getting a requirement ._.'''



Drianx -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 2:52:28)

Another fail balance change.

The TLM skill tree itself is the issue, not the stat requirements on particular skills. The dominant build will still remain, only about 4 points will move from str to supp, to counter the requirement. And Smoke lv4 is enough for str TLM, and most likely the requirement for lv4 Smoke won't be that high.

Every single time a stat requirement for a skill was introduced, it changed nothing, since the requirement can be fulfilled by moving only a few stat points around.



Gepard Acht -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 3:29:20)

Lol I'm using max massacre , smokes req won't change my build



My Name is Jake -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 3:39:44)

I really don't like all the requirements, I looks like they're trying to make everyone use a 4-5 focus build by making focus builds the best builds.



zelemania -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 3:50:03)

Most tanks don't use smoke or frenzy so only str tlms will suffer from the change. :P Imo the requirements won't do much to the balance, as someone said the whole tlm skilltree is the problem.



drinde -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 4:00:37)

Well, BH's down. Hopefully my Dex-Supp still works... :/

NW Build Plox!



skeletondude -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 4:23:42)

Can't wait for the update then NW gear is mine !!! :P


EDIT:below:Ahh thnx for correcting me i misunderstood the line i thought it would improve with support ^^



Jekyll -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 4:26:35)

@skeletondude : A support requirement does not mean that smoke improves with support. It just means that you have to have a certain amount of support before you can use the skill (ie minimum requirement)

EDIT: @skeletondude no prob ;) either tac mercs get nerfed (slightly), so i guess its good for everyone



Drianx -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 4:40:21)

Smoke is improved with Technology, not Support.



King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 6:31:35)

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.... 11% chance for one of Nightwraith's weapons to be dropped? It says his stash so does that mean one of his weapons(when we defeat him) will drop or is it his own secret shop?



Drianx -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 6:32:45)

In my opinion he will drop weak items just like Snork's armor drop, since non variums can beat him too and they don't want free players too strong, do they?



King FrostLich -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 6:34:26)

The point, Drianx(old man of long ago) is that what does he actually drop? That's what I'm really curious about.



Jekyll -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 6:37:49)

I think NW will drop something like a key card (11% chance) which will grant us access to his shop to buy exclusive items.

Or maybe we just have to rob his house.



BlueKatz -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 6:52:53)

I wonder if Varium will have chance to get drop. I meant something like "Varium only Drop".

It's like in AQ. When you defeat him, you open the shop. The shop can have some low drop rate though



altimatum -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 7:26:29)

I hope nighty made a confetti cannon for his shop [:)]



ngshuyi94 -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 7:31:22)

I rather they drop a key to allow us to gain access to his shop where there are varium as well as non varium stuff up for grabs instead of just varium drops. Fairer for the non variums.



drinde -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 7:48:38)

quote:

support bounty with high smoke!


Did you see me in game? e.e

I hope that the shop has at least 2 Non-Var equipment, and that does NOT include a bike.

Wait... The drop could be used to turn in for different Missions with differing drops.



Drianx -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 8:01:21)

I don't think the game engine supports locked shops or in-game shop unlocking functions yet. I don't know about the new missions engine, but as far as I know, it doesn't support turning in items for other items either.



ngshuyi94 -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 8:08:47)

@ drinde

I dont mind a bike coz im bored of Charfade's Cruiser. [:D]

Anyway, yeap, it would be better if it isnt a bike anyway. Best is that its a Primary Mutating weapon. [:)]



PivotalDisorder -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 8:18:02)

to those people saying they are pushing us to 5 focus, no they aren't, they are just making sure everyone has to be creative with their builds.
why should a str build also be able to have level 7 smoke ? or frenzy level 5+ etc. you want a str build, you gotta make sacrifices for that power.



drinde -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 8:21:30)

Btw, with Frenzy's Supp Req, isn't adding it to Smoke kinda redundant?



skeletondude -> RE: =ED= Design Notes November 08, 2011 (11/9/2011 8:30:53)

quote:

battling Nightwraith will give players an 11% chance of a dropped item, which unlocks Nightwraith’s personal stash!


So it's probably a key or something that will unlock his stash with weapons either varium or non varium



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