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Elf Priest JZaanu -> Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 0:14:18)

Sadly, in either 2v2 or 1v1, when factions are competing for daily titles, there are forced runs. I can understand the strategy, but it is truly something that is lack of good sportsmanship.

Personally, I think the game needs to not match up ever on opposing sides, simple because, either they will force run, or the player will undermine the match for a quick loss. It is rare for competing factions to honestly play this through. It is not smart to essentially loose time for 1 win for 2 players together.

It would be nice if the game never matchup in this manner when going into random 1v1 or 2v2 mode.

When more faction members are online, this tactic of forced runs increases their ability to gain more victors at a more rapid pace.


What are your thoughts on this matter?



Calogero -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 0:19:05)

Would so love it if they did something like that...
Fighting a faction member for a win is pointless due to getting a point after all...



drinde -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 0:19:23)

This is true, but sometimes faction members challenge each other just for fun.

How about not gaining Influence when 2 members of 1 faction battle each other?



goldslayer1 -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 0:28:28)

@drinde
thats bad.
i suggested this before of never being able to fight any faction mates unless its by challenge.
this would stop us from getting a win and a loss at the same time.



drinde -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 0:34:11)

^
Um, would you mind elaborating why it's bad?

People wouldn't be able to dummy faction wins if they don't get influence thru it.

Maybe using both ideas together?

I meant still being able to challenge each other, just not gaining Influence from it. :|



Remorse -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 0:35:48)

Brillaint idea jzannu

It really doesnt make sence way same faction member verse each other and would solve some problems,

BUt I do think thye should allow chalenges between faction members.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 1:36:35)

quote:

Um, would you mind elaborating why it's bad?

People wouldn't be able to dummy faction wins if they don't get influence thru it.

Maybe using both ideas together?

I meant still being able to challenge each other, just not gaining Influence from it. :|


dude idc about dummying. dummying can be tracked. but losses from one of ur faction members cant be removed.

if im trying to win a faction daily, why should i have to fight my faction mates in random solo battles?

if u want no influence from challenging a faction mate, i dont really care. u get more influence from holding a flag or 2.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 1:55:01)

well it is hard to make a filter to prevent faction mates from meeting each other in battle but i do hope the devs make it soon because in 2v2 well if u get caught up in a battle where your partner's faction in 1st in 2v2 daily and you see his faction mates 2 of em on the other side gl have fun because your partner would be gone before u say Hai. This also might happen if your faction is 2nd in 2v2 faction daily and u partner up with a person from the faction which is first and u see that u r fighting against your partner's faction mate. vsing faction mate can be annoying at times but it cant be avoided. while partnering a faction mate in 2v2 is gr8 but chances of that happening are well low. This is the main problem in 2v2 people going dc for their faction. ok i did leave some battles for my faction myself but i feel that it is bad and i do not do it anymore because it is not a legit way to win. partner leaving are very very annoying in 2v2 and the devs should stop this some how. this can be stopped if the make a filter preventing faction mate from meeting each other in battle.



ND Mallet -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 2:04:13)

@Luna Actually, I believe they have a system in place where you can't have 3 faction members in the same fight because of that very situation you pointed out.

I don't see much point of fighting your own faction mates. it's not like you get brainwashed and forced to fight in this game. You just teleport to a battlezone and beat up someone randomly. If you saw your team mate then you would be "Oh, sorry" and go to some other guy to beat up. This would be nice to have someday but I feel it can wait until we get balance updates and more in-depth factions.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 2:20:33)

@nd
nope it still happen but it rarely happens try going to doom(when it is open)with 3 of your faction mate and click 2v2 it think it still works. idk if 4 faction mate can meet each other in 2v2 but i know 3 faction mates can still meet each other in battle. seeing 1 person of the same faction on the other side it already annoying. they do not have any filters for the faction members. all i know is they have a filter for the same ip address only so technically u can still have 3 faction mates(with different ip address) in the same 2v2.



FrostHS -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 2:25:07)

@Drindes first post This game knows no such thing as fun anymore :l



rej -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 12:37:54)

Yes, 've noticed this too. once, when i was in elemental void, the faction had 53 wins and a 98% win rate just after midnight. the 2% missing was because i had had to defeat another faction member.



nico0las -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 16:42:27)

It does present a problem when a faction is running for 2v2 champ, as their record won't be as high as it could have been, not to mention of someone was taking daily champion along with his/her faction.
Supported, we shouldn't be able to face our faction mates in 2v2. 1v1 is fine.
Let me correct myself. 1v1 is less of a problem than 2v2.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/4/2011 22:37:15)

@ above
its a problem for 1v1 too because it makes 1v1ners waste time 2 members wasting time for just 1 faction win is not good.

Back to topic

i think there should be a faction filter preventing us from vsing faction mates in random selection(when u click 1v1 or 2v2 button). and to make it fair they should make a challenge 2v2 button where u can challenge a person and both of ya get random partners. limited to 5 2v2 challenge on 1 person per day.



goldslayer1 -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/5/2011 17:25:57)

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1v1 is fine.

no it isn't.
yesterday i had to fight Deathnightmare 2 times. (i beat him)
and its pretty messed up how one of us have to loose and screw our %s up. for the player and the faction.
and for a faction with elitist players when we're put against each other one is going to loose surely. so its pretty messed up when one of our members is running with 100% and then has to fight faction members.



Elf Priest JZaanu -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/5/2011 17:28:59)

The game should test it out and see how it fairs. There is no harm in it, and will improve quality faction play.



Fay Beeee -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/5/2011 18:13:28)

I agree and always have. Fighting a faction member is not good. Especially if that faction is active.



Battle Elf -> RE: Should same faction combatants face one another... (12/5/2011 20:38:42)

100% agree



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