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Vendile -> Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 4:16:30)
In your opinion, what is in order from strongest class to weakest. (And please, no flaming about the Tact Merc Overpowered-ness) My Opinion: 1st: Tact Merc 2nd:Merc 3rd Blood Mage 4th: bounty 5th: Mage 6th: Cyber

Ranloth -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 4:23:33)
For me, it'd be as follows: TLM - 3 skills make it already too OP, but I hope it gets changed sometime after Winter Event. BH - Str BHs crush me most of the time on my Tank TLM, it's quite a class. :P BM - While lacking in defence quite a lot - BL, Plasma and Fireball can be deadly combo for high Lvl BM. (yes they do tend to kill me with that as well.. :P) Mercenary - Bunker, Multi and Hybrid are quite a combo, my 3rd has that build and it crushes opponents most of the time. :P TM - My 4th is one, Lvl 26, and Support builds were the top until Heal got tweaked. Nevertheless, I was TM on my main sometime ago and I loved it and with good stats - I can win quite a tough fights. ^_^ CH - Unfortunatelly, only SA as passive isn't enough. They are competetive but at very high Lvl and I rarely get to fight one. Can be strong too with Massacre, but defence is crucial for them but fact Static is blockable makes it only harder.. >.< Well that's my opinion. ^_^

BlueKatz -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 4:31:32)
TLM BH BM TM CH Merc

Remorse -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 4:41:38)
I Agree with your list vendile. Mercs are extremely strong certainly not last. It just cuase they are too similar and overshadowed by TLMs plus easily tacken down by TLMs that makes them seems weak but I would still rank them second.

Jekyll -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 4:45:31)
TAC MERC - Too many passives, skills to easy to reach. BOUNTY - Smoke, bloodlust, shadow arts and massacre is a good combo, not to mention focus builds. TECH MAGE - They are strong, but variety of builds is limited now, most are dex. CYBER - Strong if used the right way, just lacking a reliable passive. BLOODMAGE - Only class with no form of energy drain, most have to rely solely on strength. MERC - Anything the merc has, the tac merc has 2x better, at high levels its almost as if they dont exist.

endtime -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 6:07:13)
From extensive experience, I would say: TLM - Essentially three passives (reroute, hybrid, and frenzy) with extremely high synergy in the skill tree. Merc - Because there are significantly less mercs due to TLMs being undisputably better, mercs seem weak. However, they are just as OP as when people complained about them before. Bounty Hunter - Good synergy between skills. Also, shadow arts and high dex is the best reverse strategy against the two strongest builds, str and focus TLM CH - The Shadow Arts advantage comes into play again. If static charge couldn't miss, this would be a solid class. Tech Mage - Reroute is the saving grace of this class. However, the lack of defense, especially since support has been nerfed has demolished this class. Blood Mage - A poorly put together class. There is really no coherent strategy in this class besides getting a ton of strength and hoping for an unlucky or unintelligent opponent who would fall for a rage berzerker.

theholyfighter -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 9:10:15)
Tactical Merc Merc Bounty Tech Cyber Blood

Technical Time -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 9:46:49)
1.TLM 2.TM 3.BH 4.Merc 5.BM 6.Cyber

od -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 10:24:24)
TLM BH=TM- Both classes are deadly, mages with their P E E combo that let's them malf, pistol then aux por massive damage. Bounty hunters have the smoke massacre build which makes them block a lot AND do damage. CH - Pretty good with constant ep regaining, but I find them quite easy as a bloodmage by out-hitting them since they cannot regain hp outside of field medic BM=Merc - As endtime said, blood mages are poorly put together. With No energy drain, we are hopeless when facing a mage supercharge build or bounty hunter smoke massacre. Another thing I'd like to point out is that our supercharge needs to stack with bloodlust, since the 30% life stealing that tec mages get is only 7-10% for us. Merc is a good class but lacks a second passive. I put them even because they are both missing something, BM with e drain and Merc with second passive. In fact, whenever I fight a mercenary it turns out to be a fairly even fight. On a scale of 5, this is how I'd rate each class: Tlm - 5.00 TM/BH- 4.25 CH- 4.00 BM/Merc- 3.75

Stabilis -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 17:06:12)
With random chance: TacM TM BH CH BM M Purely skill based: CH TM BH TacM BM M

goldslayer1 -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 17:31:53)
i like how people put mercs as second... whatever made them seem "OP" in the past is now long gone. their str merc build was brutally killed and murdered several times with the diminishing returns of stats, the removal of +15% extra damage when enemy is stunned, and the nerfing of double strike and berserker (severely), aswell as the nerf of hybrid.

Vendile -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 17:47:14)
@goldslayer The hybrid nerf gave to TLM and Mercs gave them an idea to switch to a tank build. With the new bot, it stops them from using their sidearms and bazookas, which lets their oponents ONLY use abilities, robot, or strike, which seeing as the idea of Tanks, high defence is put in. Making the chances of blocking quite high.

Lord Nub -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 17:48:13)
Wowzerss....So many mercs getting better than a last....I'm amazed considering they were never overpowered or even good for that matter... Old days? Sup = Aux, Arty, Tired and auto loss to anyone with exp. Str = No stun? Lose. Block zerker? Harsher loss. New days? Lol I don't see usefulness whatsoever with all the energy draining capabilities nowaday. List with absolutely no explanation why, TaM BH CH BM TM Crap Crap piled on top of crap Artix Entertainment Forums Newt Gingrich Umm...more stuffs... Merc

goldslayer1 -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:07:40)
quote: The hybrid nerf gave to TLM and Mercs gave them an idea to switch to a tank build. With the new bot, it stops them from using their sidearms and bazookas, which lets their oponents ONLY use abilities, robot, or strike, which seeing as the idea of Tanks, high defence is put in. Making the chances of blocking quite high. a tank build for any class will work. same with focus. except mercs even with hybrid are still probably getting the lowest % and slower winrate. the old builds as Nub Described them, no stun? harsh loss (specially against str BH back then) block zerker? might aswell run and not waste time. as for support, after artillery and aux, if u didn't crit with something u would basically loose because of low defense. tech mages were good at dealing high damage to support merc with a high malf. and str BH could basically just keep striking and gain hp thru bloodlust. either way in the end any BH with EMP would screw the merc badly if he couldn't use artillery. same goes for str merc.

Vendile -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:13:31)
Who says strength merc is the only build merc's could use? You could STILL use a nerfed version of a 5 Focus, only much Weaker. EMP would be so much help then.

Lord Nub -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:16:54)
^ Sure would because how you going to regain hp and dish out damage? The nerfing stated here is a big one, Reroute. This must have been titan's way of thinking when introducing it together with Hybrid. Not understanding how powerful it is.

Vendile -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:30:21)
With boosters? Problem? Mercs can dish out damage WITHOUT using energy, the only flaw is healing. With a combination with the bot and aux, the combo's power could be endless.

Lord Nub -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:32:26)
^ Ok feel free to utilize that strat. Your entitled to that. TaM BH CH BM TM Crap Crap piled on top of crap Artix Entertainment Forums Newt Gingrich Umm...more stuffs... Merc

goldslayer1 -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:33:55)
@vendile that might work, but it wont even come close to a focus BH. and with blocks and luck factors happening these days i wouldn't be surprised if u only got about 80% WITH varium.

Lord Nub -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:38:21)
^ I can guarantee it would be less than that in 2v2 also. Anything higher and it's a rare occasion where no one is online and the good players are maintaining 97%+

Vendile -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:42:36)
@Gold Focus BH has a high chance of using Gamma Bot, so its 5 focus vs 5 focus tank build. Hmmm, lets see, shall we? Most likely, BH will start off with EMP. Merc, continues to dish out damage with Unblockbles, and bot. Seeing as Merc will probably have more Dex than BH, Shadow Arts might even it up, or give BH advantage. BH will ONLY deal slightly lower attacks than Merc would, or with Shadow arts, even it up. Then merc will using bot special, and eat BH Unblockables. Just from here, you can see BH is off to a bad start, only with Bot, which recharges 3 turns, strikes, and almost no attack, except for maybe cheapshot, grenade, EMP, or MAYBE massacre, but with hybrid, not much damage. Edit: @Lord nub With tanky resis and dex, the opponent ALSO won;t dish out as much damage. Slowly making its way with aux and bot, the opponent will be later, overwhelmed by the aux, or maybe bot. Posts merge. ~Mecha

Lord Nub -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:48:16)
^ Your assuming that your opponents are what? Both 29 non variums doing 3s constantly with no crits? Lol I haven't been in so many rough 2v2s since I started this game 2 years ago. The environment is so much different. Everyones varium and more times than not, nothing goes your way. A tank without heal is like stone in the middle of the ocean. Your gonna sink to the bottom.

Goony -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:49:17)
^ Just smoke them, problem solved ;)

goldslayer1 -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:49:47)
@vendile quote: Seeing as Merc will probably have more Dex than BH, Shadow Arts might even it up, or give BH advantage. LOLOLOLOL last i check, the smart focus BH uses 111 dex. with maxx shadow arts. if he smokes u he will have 40% block chance for sure. secondly no, ur average merc wont have more dex than a focus BH. any focus BH using less than 93 dex is newb and wont get good results. and if the BH starts he will definitely take atleast 30-35 energy with EMP. after that, quote: BH will ONLY deal slightly lower attacks than Merc would, or with Shadow arts, even it up. only slightly lower, but then their bloodlust basically nullifies ur damage , meaning in the long run its as if ur doing less damage. and since he will most likely block with such high dex, there are chance of BH gaining 15-20 hp by ur next attack that actually hits. quote: Then merc will using bot special, and eat BH Unblockables. u never specified a bot, but ok. quote: Just from here, you can see BH is off to a bad start, only with Bot, which recharges 3 turns, strikes, and almost no attack, except for maybe cheapshot, grenade, EMP, or MAYBE massacre, but with hybrid, not much damage. and if he EMPs u, all u have is robot, strikes, gun and aux. and the yeti special effect can only be used once. and im sure ur battle will last longer than 7-8 turns. and for my focus build, i try to keep using claws, while having a lvl 1 mass there just incase. and altho u may be second guessing urself, 62 str and a lvl 1 mass can deal 35-40 damage which the robot my not do in that turn.

Vendile -> RE: Strongest Class to Weakest Class (12/16/2011 18:51:19)
And with half of the old EpicDuel legends are gone, do you think EVERYONE will understand how the game works? Over half of the EpicDuel are being populated with noobs, varium or not. And while sinking to the bottom, only 2 classes can energy drain, 1/3 chance. Most people testing out the new classes, Blood, Tact, and Cyber(Cyber rarely) So mana will be still conserved.

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