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Hadal Serpent -> Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/15/2012 23:10:22)

I'm truly sorry if this is the incorrect place to post this. If it is, may I please ask to have it moved instead of deleted if possible? Thank you.

I've been going through artist's block for quite some time now, and I think I discovered the reason why. Even though I just make simple practice sketches, they end up being pretty horrible, and it's very discouraging. As an amateur artist, I ask: is this normal? Are my first few sketches supposed to be uncomprehensive?



Glais -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/15/2012 23:14:58)

I'm so glad you made this, for I've been feeling the same way. Thinking about this, I think art is meant to be unique even if it's not the best. It gets discouraging for me at first looking around and thinking "Wow, my stuff's no where near that..."

Perhaps the solution is to make up for it with uniqueness in style and otherwise?



Hadal Serpent -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/15/2012 23:24:53)

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Perhaps the solution is to make up for it with uniqueness in style and otherwise?

I think that might work. Guess I should give it a shot.

I remember being told in my Creative Writing course that even though your first drafts end up pretty horrible, that it's fine, and it's normal. I was told that you should then re-read it and then look for some errors and have them corrected. I was thinking that some of these principles can also be applied to drawing? That if you're not good at a subject, that you should simply keep practicing at it, though it may take a while.



Glais -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/15/2012 23:33:39)

I think that sounds logical, some people just pick it up easier than others. My brother for example, doesn't draw a lot...but when he decided to try it was miles beyond anything I'd ever made. Just a matter of paces, and as to how your brain perceives to go about creating the art.

The way I see it, at the moment, my detail just isn't there, so I decided to go the opposite direction and work in a more heavily stylized....style. It also has the benefit of being relaxing because you can focus more on the theme of the character itself, but the drawing is not difficult to create in and of itself.



Hadal Serpent -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/15/2012 23:50:09)

Well right now I'm practicing on my drawing skills through a book I bought a few weeks ago titled Drawing for the Absolute Beginner. That's where I got the idea about practicing at the subjects that you're not good at, but the rest that I mentioned I used inductive reasoning from what I learned at my Creative Writing course.



lordkaho -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 1:02:25)

Art in itself has no standards that should be followed, as anything can be called 'art', as long as (theoretically) it is made by an artist out of inspiration, devotion and passion.

Artistic skill on the other hand is a different matter. Like you, when I glance at more professional works I always look at my own work in dismay thinking that I may never reach 'that' level of skill. I have been making Japanese styled comics for 6 years and I still can't get the usual, common formatting. But at least, in all those years I have made my own distinct art 'style' that at least made me somehow unique in artistic approach. It's far from perfect (still can't color to save my life) but I'm pretty proud of it.









Hadal Serpent -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 1:34:35)

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Art in itself has no standards that should be followed, as anything can be called 'art', as long as (theoretically) it is made by an artist out of inspiration, devotion and passion.

And I was thiking that art was anything that just takes creativity, which was why I was about to question how photography is considered a form of art.

I first started drawing years ago when I had a comic book in mind (which I'm currently debating with myself whether or not I should continue working on it or not) so I started making fantasy drawings. Although, I never showed my drawings to any of my friends or family because they were horrible and I was to embarrassed to show any of it to them. After I took a long pause on my comic book, I didn't stop practicing my drawing because I found that form of art as a hobby that calms my nerves, and 3 out of 5 times it just gets me more nervous because I'm just disconfident whether my skills will ever get any better or not.

Yet I think to myself that drawing might be like mathematics to me: I'll be horrible at it at first because of the fact that I don't even try, but my knowledge may blossom after I grow some guts and actually try?



lordkaho -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 1:40:56)

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I'll be horrible at it at first because of the fact that I don't even try, but my knowledge may blossom after I grow some guts and actually try?


True. But sadly, most people I know who share your sentiments never got better at the skill since they just stopped trying and just didn't love drawing enough. If you're determined, you'll feel a spark inside (eventhough if it is faint) that urges you to keep practicing and to hone your skills for the better. All in all, I started from shameful Dragonball comics, cheesy characters with Yugioh hair, and the lot. Looking back, all those years did do a huge improvement on my skills.

Just keep drawing VK, and someday when you look at your old drawings, you will really surprise yourself. It's going to take several years of practice and dedication though.



Hadal Serpent -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 1:49:40)

^Thanks for giving me a confidence boost, I really appreciate it! I just don't want this form of art to end up like the last two forms of art that I gave up on, which were music and sculpting. I gave music a try when I was young when I gave the flute a try, but like you said, I guess I gave up on it because I never felt that 'spark'. It's pretty much the same story with sculpting. It just caused a lot more stress than inspiration.



flamingknight11 -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 17:58:02)

I would say that making bad drawings are very much normal for me. Just like playing card or a video game, when you just start, you won't nearly be as good as other people who have experience. But working on it, you will get better. And even then bad drawings are still common.
The only suggestions I have is to draw what you enjoy (should it be a certain style, subject etc) and have fun do it. If you like doing it you'll end up draw more and you'll improve with the practice. The other thing is to not look down at your drawings. Sure there are people better than you, but that is true for even the best of us. Never feel that your drawing is bad. Instead look at what you can improve on your drawing and try again.



Hadal Serpent -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 18:30:52)

^I guess I give too much attetion to perfectionism. It's what held me back when I first started writing.



Master K -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 19:40:21)

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All in all, I started from shameful Dragonball comics, cheesy characters with Yugioh hair, and the lot.


As shameful as that sounds, its not as bad as my starts. I used to draw wars. It was stickmen on paper. There would be two castles, and then I would draw, then erase, then draw, then erase, then draw, then erase, then...you get the idea. I was horrible. Didn't make me feel any better that there was another kid in my class who drew perfectly. He still does too.

Eventually, I tried again. Now look where I am.



flamingknight11 -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 19:57:48)

@mrbk: Still much better than my starts. I couldn't draw at all and was forced to do tracing and copying. I would take pictures (mostly pokemons cause the details weren't too bad) and trace their outlines. Then draw in the details and they usually only turn out half decent. But I enjoyed doing it and I even collected pokemon cards just to do this with some varities. Eventually i got sick of the process and began to sketch them freehand and eventually got the hang of it and began drawing other things. It also helped that there were a couple of people who were kind of like rivals and would see who does best in art class at school.



Smalls -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (1/16/2012 21:28:57)

Art is never going to be perfect. Everyone's view of perfect art varies, it's not like it's math with one solid answer. There is going to be no piece of art that's perfect.
The only thing you can do as an artist is work though those periods where you can't draw (Godtiss knows I have enough of those) and just practice. As boring and dull as practice is, it's completely and utterly necessary to the process of art.
There is never going to be a time when anything you make is perfect to everyone, but you have to try your hardest to get to near that point.
Saying that, the thing that I've learned helped me through times where I can't draw, it finding a new style and working on that. I generally work in a distinctly anime style, however when I'm art blocked, I try developing a more western style. Or I'll work on realistic portraits as well as semirealistic or completely anime headshots.
Well, that's my two cents, take it or leave it *shrugs*



pRopaaNS1337 -> RE: Is Art Supposed to be Perfect? (2/10/2012 17:49:47)

You have to learn basics, once you know them you will be able to analise your drawings and skills and be able to find out how to improve them.



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