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Silver Sky Magician -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 5:21:54)

@Mir

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Titan's made huge improvements in the bot system, but robots are still a huge time investment. Every bot has it's own art, specials and animations, which means each bot still requires a ton of work by Nightwraith and Charfade on the artsy side of development. It's not really possible to squeeze in another bot in between the already huge selection of player suggested items the staff is working on for this week. A credit only bot is on the shortlist of to-do's, so you'll be seeing one in the near future.


Quote from Ashari's post, a few posts above yours.

If you want credit-only bots, all you need to do is wait. Furthermore we're NOT free wins, especially with the awesome new non-varium weapons. I don't get how any non-varium can complain much about being brushed aside after this update. Though arguing by anecdote isn't a logically sound way to prove a point in most cases, I have personally beaten many varium users, and narrowly lost to more. And I'm a non-varium user with just 6 enhances and weapons a year old.




xxmirxx -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 5:27:05)

Oh god wouldn't change fact No robots means free wins I don't mean it literally. I already know whole issue with robots.  Lycus I have read your post but wouldn't change fact with no robots it would still leave non varium underpower. Even if takes time majority of non varium wants to buy robots. I find hard to believe within week you guys come up with new robot but you couldn't brother making non varium. Sky just cause release new non varium weapons. Do you seriously think varium players wouldn't buy it? As said this week player suggestion shop pure distraction to real issue regarding non varium robots issue.  Lycus do me faver don't reply to me to always say I never read your post I do and as well others.




Lycus -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 6:30:05)

@Mir: The only reason why I say you don't read the posts is because you never seem to take any of it on board, and when you post a reply, you ask questions, or raise things that have already been covered in the post before. This pretty much lights up a sign above your head saying 'I couldn't be bothered to read your post.' - If you have read them, then great, thank you very much. But if we answer something, then raising it again, despite us giving you a reason for why it's happening, then it does really look like you just have decided to ignore our posts.

I'm not denying the fact that Non-Variums would love a Non-Varium bot, but the amount of time and effort that goes in to bots, it would mean very little else could come out art wise in the release. Right now, most players, including Non-Variums, would not call having no Non-Varium Bot the 'main issue', in fact, I've been reading every post in most these discussions for the past few months, and the main issues is that the Weapons aren't strong enough, and Enhancements are very hard to afford as a Non-Varium. Not having Bots is an issue, but it isn't the main one at all, and I can back that up with what I've read from most the Non-Varium players discussions over the past few months. We've been listening to this, which is why we introduced a large number of strong Non-Varium weapons this release, which whether Varium players can buy them or not, the fact is, Non-Variums can too, nothing can be made Non-Varium exclusive... And we are keen to get this level-scaling credit idea working, sadly Hudelf said this is a large project, so may take a while to implement.

So this release was not a distraction, in fact it was made to fix one of the 'main issues' and we are working hard to fix the other. While we are doing this, we have taken notes of the other contributing factors, such as bots, and when time allows, one will be made for Non-Variums. Right now, art is in demand for Valentines releases, which means that will be the main focus. Of course Valentines Day can't really be moved so we have more time to make bots, so sadly, right now, that is not an option. Non-Variums and Variums alike both want advances in the story line, which is what we're doing. The Non-Varium Bot issue is not the 'Real issue' it's a 'Contributing issue', and will be dealt with in due time, but as Silver Sky Magician said, one of the 'Real Issues' was weapons, as many of the Non-Varium players were stating, in yesterdays release, we aimed to fix that as much as we could, next thing is Enhancements, but that has to happen after the Credit level-scaling, which could be a lengthy project - so you never know, bots could end up released before then. We'll release things when we can, most of our priorities are based of what the majority are asking for on the forums.




Goony -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 6:34:39)

Why respond to trolls, he is a level 32 non varium and there are many good posts to respond to... Meh, I don't get you guys stop taking the bait and these guys will get sick of it if you stop biting... fair dinkum...




xxmirxx -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 6:42:49)

Gonny Im not trolling and I do have other accounts and  Lycus Im going to drop this.




Cookielord12 -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 7:23:07)

well at least the gap has been closed slightly by this release




nico0las -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 9:02:14)

^Agreed.
The new release has made it much easier for non variums (at least 30-34 non variums).
There is still the task of closing the gap entirely.




dracule1984 -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 15:41:06)

Above, if they close the varium gap entirely why will people buy variums? Why spend money when you can get the items free?! Remember, attending to the masses is important but you also have to tend too the people who spend real money! If I am paying 50$ but getting treated like a free player .. Obvi I will stop buying and many others too which in turn hurt ED!!
Be happy for u get and todays release was great for non variums!! Anything more it will hurt the variums.




Stabilis -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 15:49:10)

^ Why should varium allow dominance over other players in PvP? There is SO much we can do with a special currency. For one, we can introduce PvP-unrelated content that is fun to use. For example, we could introduce mini-games that cost varium but reward you with many credits. We can introduce varium house furniture that is interactive, which would make houses more interesting. We could introduce special skins that cost varium to decorate your player but give no advantage. I have to think of more later, but varium does not have to be a reason why one player is winning their fights. I call that mechanic the nature of skill.




Ranloth -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 15:50:41)

Entirely means that Varium will have slight advantage over non Varium, not literally the same. So in AQ, they want to and are making everything balanced and upgraded/Token (same as Varium) has advantage over normal items. That's wht they want to do and it's in every other game - upgraded or 2nd currency items have slight boost.




Whirlwindstorm2 -> RE: we re just talking of the gup (2/4/2012 15:50:58)

What depressed void said. :D




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