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Lord Machaar -> After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 20:17:22)

Lately a lot of non-varuim players start complaining about how much they are weak against varuim players and their "Weak" weapons plus they don't have bot and ETC...
I and my friend came up with this idea! Why the ED team wont separate servers(Epic-Legion-Exile-Doom) into servers that each one of them specified one for Varuim players and one for Non-varuim players... Just like AQW!(Private server for member players)
Please feel free expressing your opinion and telling ur ideas and i'll answer all related questions.



DeathGuard -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 20:23:31)

This topic has been bring so many times, and the answer has been the same: a simple no.
If variums get into a whole server, all variums will fight against themselves meaning there will be no need for varium, meaning no incoming from the players to the game, no servers and all the payed things this game needs. Nonvariums will be happy but variums will complain and stop buying varium and become nonvarium once again.



goldslayer1 -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 20:26:58)

@lord
heres the thing
u cant really tell whos var and whos non var.
for example
if my gun or aux is var while the rest of my items is non var.
am i a var player?
(same for non var item on mostly var gear)
secondly
if this was made, no one would go to the var server.
why?
because variums would be at an equal advantage against other var players.
and the increase in a var player's % comes from fighting low lvls and non vars.

if var players fight only var players. their %s will drop and loose alot more. not to mention longer battles.
now if he fought a non var. it would be an easier match compared to fighting a var player.

while this idea is good, it has been suggested before and turned down for this reason.

why? well if i could go to a non var server, then no one would pay for varium to have an advantage over non var players in the first place.
all i would do is go on non var server and have a full set of gear as non var.


to simply put it, if ED had done this from day 1. i would have never spent $750+ on this game.



Stabilis -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 20:31:03)

quote:

u cant really tell whos var and whos non var.
for example
if my gun or aux is var while the rest of my items is non var.
am i a var player?


That.

This won't work until ED uses memberships. I hope they don't...



Lord Machaar -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 20:38:44)

Take it from another View... I've heard some "Topics" saying that after non-varuim players reach lvl 30 it will play NPCs for the rest of it life... and from my personnel view i fight only varuim players so the numbers of non-varuim players in solo is almost 0 because they know they will lose ... And separated servers will work like this : anyone who has a "Varuim" weapon will go to varuim server and non-varuims also ... and if u said the non-varuim and varuim players will don't have chance to meet each other! it will be another server ... With no fights.... Challenges only like servers in other games(Chat/Without chat) and varuim player with only 1 varuim weapon will have another motivation of buying more varuim weapons because he/she will fight onlu fully equipped varuim players/
and i like the member ship idea... It will support this idea.



goldslayer1 -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 21:17:06)

@lord
ur death count after that post will be OVER 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but seriously, no i disagree with this.

what i would agree with is separate server for each battle mode.
1 full server for solo, and another server for team and jugger.
and then the other 2 servers are just regular servers.
this would help solve the issue of match finding in team and solo battles. specially during reset times.

in fact ill make a post about this one.



Retrosaur -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 21:27:56)

Lord Machaar...

This has already been discussed.

For example, what if they have non-var weapons, but they're enhanced WITH var? How will you know? What if they class changed....how will you know if they used var (they could have been really lucky, and won 5 10k jackpots....? What if they have a varium hairstyle? What if they got varium through selling Super War Bombs or the Vendzooka? Does that make them "varium"?

Reconsider your opinion. It's obvious you haven't really thought this through...



Ashari -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/2/2012 22:42:55)

There's a big difference between having a server accessible only to members, as AQW does, and forcing all Varium players to play on a Varium-only server.

Besides the problem of determining who is a Varium player, there is the point that Varium is meant to be an advantage, both in and out of battle. The balance team is continually working on the problems that are making the gap between non-Varium and Varium players in battle. There will be a gap, but it will be much more reasonable.

Second, Varium players are EpicDuel's supporters. Without them, the game wouldn't be able to keep on existing. Supporting a game shouldn't limit your options, it should open up new options. If there was an optional Varium-only server, I don't think it would see much use for the reason DeathGuard mentioned -- players want to feel their advantage if they bought Varium. Sir Ver and Evil Sir Ver on AQW are popular since they are often lag free (or at least less laggy) than the non-member servers due to their smaller player populations. I wouldn't see a Varium-only server being used for much besides NPCing.

Forcing all Varium players into another server brings up another problem. It separates our community in two. I know many non-Varium players, and I'm sure they wouldn't like being permanently separated from their Varium friends, or vice-versa.

The Varium gap is still a problem, and it's still bigger than it should be, but this just isn't a feasible solution.



TurkishIncubus -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/3/2012 3:17:58)

Wow both of you are real GENIUS

the question is, Who will buy Varium if there will be a Non Varium server?, I dont.



xxmirxx -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/3/2012 3:24:17)

It would be fair for non varium but for varium players your winning percent will go down for 2vs1 and 1vs1. I believe happy non varium player equal happy paying costomer. I think thats how spell it.



Lord Machaar -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/3/2012 7:45:57)

That's why there is still a suggestion of "Member Ship"
if non-varuim players still complaining of they are being weak and Etc... There will be only 1 option member ****...
I'll think again and this time i'll take more time to think (LoL) and i'll try to change this idea and make it more smoother.
I do play some other games (without names) Such as PVP MMO RPG FPS Etc... And they separate between normal players and players with payment smoothly like without Any difference and that's like a Smart Separation. i might PM one of the MODs in AEF about how these games (with Names of course) and how they are separating between both players (Both sides) and we hopr it might help.



Stabilis -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/3/2012 8:38:20)

quote:

"Member Ship"


All aboard the Member Ship! Woo woo!



Sageofpeace -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/3/2012 12:48:24)

i know one thing for sure a lot 2 VS 2 player ration will get a lot better



Lycus -> RE: After a long thinking me and my friend we came up with this Brilliant Idea! (2/3/2012 12:55:03)

This is really a suggestion, and it's lived long enough to get the views of a lot of others. As pointed out by Ashari and some other members, this is not really an option that can be took, and therefore, it won't be happening. Further discussing an idea that will certainly never happen because of a lot of the reasons listed above, is fairly pointless, so therefore, I'm going to lock this up! Thank you for the idea, I hope you understand why it's not something that can be done though!



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