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Hun Kingq -> 2vs2 battles (2/4/2012 20:49:43)

Players complained about dummying in 1vs1 or player challenges to boost faction scores but the real dummying is occuring more in 2vs2 and 2vs1. Vast majority of the time I end up with a dummy, a player with a weak build, or a level 34 player that runs to help out their buddies in getting on top of the 2vs2 leader board. I don't know which class is doing it more tact mercs or Cyber Hunters.

With the Blood Mage having no energy regain or anything to increase damage how can they truly and fairly compete in 2vs2 matches when constantly getting hit and your partner (a lower level) just lets you die thinking they could win the match on their own.

Every other 2vs2 match today when I was going to win I got connection lost but when I am going to loose I get no connection lost.

In my opinion what is mention in the first paragraph is a form of cheating so now we have to ask the ED staff what will they do to curve the bad behavior?

This is a discussion about 2vs2 and your horrible experience.



midnight assassin -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/4/2012 21:03:53)

^ Same here and it's my second time to encounter a 120+ support lvl 31 tm with only apprentice staff as his only equips and scattered build as well.



Nub Apocalypse -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/4/2012 21:07:06)

I never see any dummies in 2vs2, and that's the mode I play most. Even if it is occurring, what are the chances of successfully getting both players into the same battle? I reckon over 90% of the time, they're doing favours for other people instead. You just have to hope not to have one on your side, just like how you want to avoid having a lvl 28 on your side.



midnight assassin -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/4/2012 21:09:33)

^Well who loves getting a partner like I mentioned above? Dummying is still possible but it will be hard.



Nub Apocalypse -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/4/2012 21:24:42)

^Like I said just consider it the same as how you might end up with a lvl 28 partner, it's all about chance.



Oba -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 5:46:29)

I rarely see any dummying in 2vs2, even lesser in 2vs1 (how CAN you even dummy in that?). There was one faction that "dummied" that I know of, but thats about it.

Bounty Hunters dosent have any energy regain either, and all classes aint ment for these battle modes. Merc dosent either for that matter.

And if you dont "like" getting low lvl partners, "noobs" and so on and so forth, then is not these type of battles your thing. Surely noone likes to get a lose because if hes/her partner, but that is what 2vs2, and 2vs1, is about if you ask me. A real challange.



Algorithm -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 8:08:49)

It's hard to spot, but it does exist.



I am Primal -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 9:39:42)

dummying does happen in 2 vs 2 and there is proof of it. screen shots videos everything. but hey it just gets ignored. and yea i know factions which dummy in 2 vs 2. but i'm not gonna spoil it for you all u can work it out urselfs it's not hard to work it out.

btw playarn i hate getting "noob" partners and 2 vs 2 is my mode, so what u said means nothing.



Lord Machaar -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 10:13:46)

Yeah i'm so agreed with that... I wont say that much just check out team battles leaders for today and you will get it all!
Low-Level players is dominating this battle mode which is not letting for high-level players a chance... So if you are Lv. 34 and you have a lvl 28 partner and you are facing 2 Lv. 34 players you know the result and this is the same Fact in juggernauts if you are Lv. 34 Player facing 2 Lv. 31 players Fully Equipped you have no chance no matter if they was Non-varuim or Varuim because they are now in my opinion same after Last update! So i hope the ED team " Balance " team check this out with the help of " Balance Tracker ".



Cookielord12 -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 11:27:11)

I think there should be a system that full variums shouldn't be allowed to be a team.



Stabilis -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 11:31:37)

quote:

I think we should ban all foreign people from playing EpicDuel



I am Primal -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 11:45:33)

^cookielord that could work fixing balance. wouldn;t be unfair teams



Lord Nub -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 13:11:28)

@Hun,

Try being offensive rather than defensive. I've played you so many times and every time you reflex and waste turns. This games defensive abilities are severely underpowered compared to offensive, especially in 2v2 when your partner has a limited amount of time on the field since your not going to be the one getting attacked first with bloodlust and all those defensive abilities.

While your using turns to do all that, your partners are getting bashed in a 2v1 scenario and then you end up in a 2v1 yourself.

Dummying is a huge problem but if your partners are at least taking their turns you still have a chance regardless of how bad they may be. Hopefully something is done though eventually like perhaps a new mode where players may ally link with others and join 2v2 matches to alleviate the problems in the current 2v2 mode.



I am Primal -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 13:32:19)

^ ur really fed up of bad partners arn't you xD



xxmirxx -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 16:42:24)

Well there is 2vs2 dummy I see alot too but I sometimes understand giving take how hard is it to get good partner and your try go for 2vs2 its way harder these days. Just to let you guys know most dummies happen with there normal built or sometimes If lets say your faction has more wins Im second place faction I decide not to win. That to me isn't dummy thats call playing smart especially if helps team thats if your on same team.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 18:06:43)

suppose it doesn't help when a number of us refuse to fight as your partner too Hun Kingq.
we don't leave to help another faction, we leave for 2 reasons. 1: we don't have to spend time in your presence and 2: we make you lose.



Stabilis -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 18:10:53)

^ Hehehehehehe, Hun asked us to share our "horrible experience"(s). Rant thread? Cheating is to be regarded by the Lawman.



Hun Kingq -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 21:48:21)

Lord Nub, I sometimes do defensive and sometimes do offensive full out attack but the problem the Blood Mage class has is lack of power at low stat levels a high strength Blood Mage has low defense and resistance and not much power if the opponent has high defenses and that you have a partner that does not smoke to lower the defenses and that goes for the ones that have malfunction as well. Some players I look at their build and wonder why they choose such a weak setup. Then you got the ones with just the basic club, no aux or side arm.

psibertus, I consider that rather nasty way to treat another player in battle especially when you leave or purposely loose the battle due to you disagreements or hatred towards me, you still get a lose. I do everything I can to help you win the the battle.

A true Epic Duel warrior would leave what happens in the forum in the forum and work as a team in 2vs2 or in the war to claim the victory.

Today I did various builds using various skills to help with the Data output.

Players like psibertus by his comments shows that they want players to have an horrible experience and you have to ask why?
If every player they partner with they dislike will they want to purposely loose ever battle to have more loses then wins just to prove how much they hate that player? Truly if these are the cases just stop playing.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 23:14:55)

I don't want players to have a horrible experience. you are one of the very few I would refuse to fight with.

at least I leave instead of going AFK and wasting everyone else's time. their are many people I have disagreed with on the forum
that I would fight with if I got paired with them like Manthong, Goldslayer or Buffy etc. sorry but I feel strongly about this.



goldslayer1 -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 23:22:32)

@psib
well atleast i know u wont leave me out to hang in a battle :D

btw dont take my aggressive debating serious in a way that u may think im flaming or insulting.



PivotalDisorder -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 23:36:02)

@Goldslayer: we chatted by PM before, I think when I was Jehannum. about delta weps being sellable so yeah I know it aint personal



goldslayer1 -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 23:38:26)

@psib
:O
ur jeha? omg how many alts u got lol.
well imma go to sleep. pm me if ur replying.
this thread might get deleted by tomorrow so i may not see it.



Luna_moonraider -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/5/2012 23:45:11)

2v2 dummying hmm been in the game for ages yet u guy did not notice it is called "oh i dc when i see my faction mate on the other side". this can easily be solved by making a restriction preventing faction mate from vsing each other in 2v2. Noob partners are very common in 2v2 because 1) Noobs cant play 1v1 because it is a death button to them. click 1v1 and it is a instant death for them so they rather click 2v2 and spoil the fun for 2v2ers. 2) y is 1v1 = death button. u know why if u meet a fully enh varium player with latest equipment it is = instant death to a noob with basically a mising aux/gun/or full set bet not fully enhed. 3) 2v2 is attracting noobs because if u die/lose u still get a whooping 35 credits that is way more than a win in 1v1 i think. considering they can only win other noobs which are like them. kill 1 person in 2v2 and u get 53 credits now that a lot of credits considering in 1v1 if u die u only get 18 credits.A dummy in 2v2 is most likely a noob which does not know a good build unless u have prove that the person is a dummy u cant really say that there is 2v2 dummying.



xxmirxx -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/6/2012 2:05:22)

Well at least got rid of run button thanks to that it mess up my merc stats.



rajkumar -> RE: 2vs2 battles (2/6/2012 5:39:18)

2vs2 is the worst battle mod. Today i did 5 battles and i got level 28-30 non variums and my opponent was fully varium!!!



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