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.Nikzat. -> the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 9:52:00)
well i think that 80% debuff is too much for a non varium bot what do you think? is it too oped pr not?

Ranloth -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 9:57:09)
Quoting myself from here: quote: I can't wait for rants to start happening, because they paid Varium to get it! Assault Bot is a drop as well so you can get it for free, I like that it's just -2 less damage which is maybe Lvl or two of advantage which is good because Varium and non-Varium gap is slowly closing. You use Varium to get advantage, not win. :3 Assault Bot is technically non-Varium too, you can get it for free as well as Rusty. Your choice: time or money.

TurkishIncubus -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:01:30)
If there was non varium version at the first place i wouldnt buy the original assault bot. The question is Who uses assault bot for DMG?, and it just -2 less dmg. I thought it would be like 50% debuff reduce but its same with varium bot. So if i were a new begined varium player i wouldnt buy original assault bot and just get the non varium one.

darky14 -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:03:31)
Nope, it isn't. Do you really want non-variums to have virtually no chance against variums? Granted, this bot doesn't help THAT much, but hey, it does a little. Besided, as Trans said above me, the original Assault Bot was winable, so you shouldn't feel ripped of, because instead of doing arcades, you payed real money to save time. Well, if you did.

Sageofpeace -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:06:11)
ii tough it was a rip off when they put on arcade after everybody bought it, that was when people were suppose to rage about it not now when the non varuim are getting a small boost which i think is fair because as much as i like to win it feels better when you have some competition and besides now noobs on 2vs2 serve a purpose debuff

nico0las -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:06:29)
The assault bot is so abused I don't really think it matters how much the debuff is. This just saves battle tokens.

Oba -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:21:59)
Yes this bot should get 60% instead of 80%. Or be harder to get... I've seen atleast 20 players in 70 battles that uses the bot ALREADY. Give it a week and everyone will have it..

SouL Prisoner -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:26:09)
@.Nikzat. u still hve no "idea" how OPed it is , try Jugg for "better" experience.

.Nikzat. -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:27:52)
its not so funny for for those who played varium for the assault bot and now the non variums have the same bot but a litte less dmg

Wraith -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:28:13)
@Above: I have. The bot's completely dam OP. Wasted my Malf, lowered my dmg. Me vs. Two level 30+s I don't even have a chance. Before, I could survive because of high defense and a powerful Bot, but now I'm ripped off. This is like Non Variums getting Frost Destroyer with a +32 for 15k srsly...

Ranloth -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:30:06)
All Bots are OP'ed currently. 80% debuff of Azrael and Assault is too much, and this should get lowered to about 60%. I still laugh, no one said you must spend Varium on Assault Bot. Payers will whine, drop was free so you could've put some time and effort in rather than use your real money. Good release was done, people moan because gap is closing.. Of course we who pay upkeep the game in a way but doesn't mean Free players get nothing. I don't wanna spend $50 every few weeks on 4 chars therefore you must learn to save Varium or play as non-Varium.

Oba -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:33:34)
@Trans; I havent bought the bot. I currently dont even own it. But there should be gap between varium items and credit items. Whats the point in paying for the game if you just can "farm" for a items that is exactly as good. But I agree with you that the bots is "OP", and all of them should be lowered to 60%, while the rusty bot should be 50%.

Wraith -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:33:36)
@Above: So instead of working, I could gamble fo a few million? Nice logic.

Darkeroid -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:34:22)
@Wraith quote: Non-Variums want to win, in the game Varium players paid for Yeah yeah like you guys paid for FREE WINS against non-variums.Like non-variums cant even win against variums. - edited to remove allcaps, which is considered spam M4B

darky14 -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:36:11)
ITT: Variums whining how they paid something what they could get for free. It's YOUR fault for not thinking about your purchase. - Post edited to remove unnecessary content M4B

Ranloth -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:37:01)
Your logic fails when it comes to ED. Fights take time and award you Tokens. Before Tokens were needed for Arcade, now it's free. Now you get a choice - farm for the Bot (drop or buy) OR spend real-life money (well before Rusty was out). Time vs. money - which one do you pick? Same result in the end. Until Bots get a major change to their debuff %s, there's no point whining but perhaps raise the point, give solution and reasons for it? This is simply whining because gap is closing, and non-Varium got as good Bot as 'Varium' (it's a drop too).

Oba -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:37:04)
quote: YOU GUYS CANT EVEN SACRIFICE 1 THING FOR US F2PS.AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN WHINING FOR JUST 1 THING. Ofcourse we dont! Since F2P players get very good items now a days, can everyone just as good stop to pay. And what would happen then?

darky14 -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:39:58)
I never whined about not having a bot, as it didn't matter to me. I got it from arcade, I was happy. So, your argument is invalid.

Darkeroid -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:40:54)
We get good items,but not as good as varium items.You guys still get a big advantage.but the worst part is,you want to get even more. @Wraith-We never wanted assault bot or anything like that to be non var.We just wanted a normal bot with a different special.Atleast I never saw someone doing it.Now that the devs gave us,we got it.And for attack,I use it on my bh alt with a 3 focus build.

XxKirachanXx -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:43:40)
lol....that bot was a lot cheaper than it should have been... I mean...I regretted buying the assault bot before that came out... 14k vs 12k and 1250 varium for more or less the same thing? I should have just bought a high level armour ;w; It should have cost at least 20k...oh well...might as well just sell the assault bot, and buy the new one and salvage what little varium I can... Unless of course they suddenly decide to nerf it....then....that would be a bad idea....murr....

Darkeroid -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:47:07)
@kira-agreed.

RageSoul -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:47:17)
Lol , it's kinda funny that some or most of the Varium players here are complaining because of us Non-Vars having a bot with the same quality of the original Assault Bot , but have you guys ( pointing to Varium players ) checked your total gear quality AND farming speed lately ? I mean , most likely Non-Vars have a chance of winning if the Varium player was noob , lucky and / or unenhanced . But most likely Var players get better win rates not just because of bots but also because of stronger gear quality .

XxKirachanXx -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:57:52)
Meh...I just feel kinda ripped off....I have armor that's....well...meh.... Had I spent the varium on armor, I wouldn't feel like every battle is stacked against me... I'm stuck with high support, and a bounty hunter must have high strength...so in addition to weak armor, my defenses are rather weak. But I really shouldn't complain...it was my poor decision to buy it...I really don't even use it anymore...but it was quite an investment so I don't want to sell it either ;w;

Stabilis -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 10:59:21)
I'm a varium player and I don't mind that F2P get a bot that has the powers of the assault.

PivotalDisorder -> RE: the new bot is too oped (2/18/2012 11:00:00)
I am happy they got the bot, seemed ridiculous non-vars were an entire item behind, plus had weaker equipment and less enhancements total and usually less enhancements paid for so far too. I am mildly disappointed we paid so much for assault bot, but it DOES do more damage and many players do use it for the damage because they don't have multiple bots or their equipment is better suited for a focus build.

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