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King FrostLich -> Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/17/2012 22:52:36)

With the new level cap, I'm pretty sure you will now be facing level 30's which is not good because most strong weapons have an encumbrance that reaches until level 30 including bionic battalion. What are your thoughts?

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SouL Prisoner -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/17/2012 22:56:03)

No way, its too soon to fight them... Lvl 38. Sounds ok :)



Renegade Reaper -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/17/2012 23:08:23)

we will indeed be facing level 30s when we are level 35 ourselves. juggernaut needs to have the challenge brought back to it, i actually would be ok with fighting 31s as well.
when you are presented with a challenge in which you might lose, but you actually win, you get a really cool sense of satisfaction. we will just need to adjust our tactics to
compensate for possibly facing level 30s. i say bring on the challenge. [:D]



SouL Prisoner -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/17/2012 23:59:51)

^ u just play once in a Blue moon, so u feel its awesome to have such challenge, while for the players playing everyday, y do u want to make hellish for them?



Renegade Reaper -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 2:15:23)

read what i said soul, i want to face HIGHER levels in juggernaut, they will stand a chance of killing me. fighting lower levels isn't enough of a challenge.
i would actually prefer the levels 35 juggernauts face will be 29-31. maybe even some level 32s. with full equipment. hellish you say? i just want this to be fair for everyone involved.

it actually sounds like you want to make life hellish for the players who fight juggernauts. you only want to face level 30s when you are level 38 yourself?
seriously.

and i don't play once in a blue moon, i play every single day. right now I'm just playing the war instead of juggernaut.



SouL Prisoner -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 2:30:52)

In a game, where luck plays a major role, that fighting lvl 28&27 is hard, and on that , non var, players get the highest damage weapons in the game...

Is u still call it no challenge?

2 reasons for u say that... Ur a varium player, got the best weapon
And ... Ur few fights r like , u now everything, had had been through everything...
Ask, any player from the juggs, leader board, no ones gonna agree with ur half fantasy of urs... Sry to say, but, ur clueless about wat ur asking. :)



Magiskee -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 2:58:08)

@Soul
May you please edit you post? I'm finding it hard to fully understand your post. Oh and actually, you asking to face level 30s at 38 is a fantasy. Your pretty much saying that from level 34-37 you want to continuously crush level 25-29s which will cause many of them to rage quit which is already a issue? We already have many level 25-29 players rage quitting due to vsing level 34 full variums and them fighting lvl 35,36 and 37 full variums certainly won't help them stay. From my view you are being very biased towards your battle mode thus destroying the level 25-29 non-varium population.




Mr. Black OP -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 2:59:52)

Increase encumbrance problem solved. Besides people should be using weapons based on their level anyways. I think 30 is fine as long as you don't get 2 30s. Then it just gets annoying.



midnight santa -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 3:24:49)

34 fite 29s, so 35 fite 30s, dat is common sense. if u wana fite 29s, dont be a 35 simple.



Nub Apocalypse -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 4:08:13)

Lol, people still want juggs to be stronger? I thought when an average player has 90%+ and a good player has 95%+, that it was already ridiculous. If any changes should be made to jugg, we should increase the level range, not lower it.



Viesty -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 6:07:24)

Well, I'm level 26, and I keep getting juggernauts all the time. It's getting annoying!



suboto -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 10:56:41)

Jugger match's for level34 should not have a enemy no higher then lvl29 well not sure about that because its in the 5level range. So considering this
lvl28 with lvl29
lvl27 with lvl29 those two for lvl34
lvl26 with lvl29

lvl28 with lvl30
lvl28 with lvl29 those for level35
lvl26 with lvl30
But when i did a jug again for once in a long time i recently fought 2 level30's as a level34 jug and that wasnt fun. Even when their both lvl30 cyber hunters with (varium) i as a tlm had trouble with them i couldnt even kill one of them fully so some debuffing on cyber hunter and some rebalanceing on juggernaut and i was told blood mages are over powered so some rebalanceing on them as well.



Chosen 0ne -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 11:07:24)

Oh my god you guys. Quit trolling renegade reaper; before this war; he has been on juggernaut daily everyday for like 2 or 3 months, getting about 80 or so, with a 100% ratio.

On another note; I believe it should be lvl 29 till we are lvl 36.



ansh0 -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 11:13:29)

As I said before, the jugg LvRange for Lv35 should be 27-29.



Chosen 0ne -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 11:14:42)

I agree with ansh0.



Ranloth -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 11:36:38)

And same here. 27-29 that are well equipped with normal items do stand a chance even using base classes, even better chance when they have evolved or even Varium. :D 25-29 is too low, but 27-29 would be fine for Lvl 35 (heck even 34). As it'd raise, it could turn to 28-29 so it's very close call or up to 59 Levels so you can have 30 and 29 for bigger threat at let's say Lvl 36-37 so one person has access to top equipment but other will not. ^_^



rej -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 13:54:41)

Hopefully, the level range remains the same as that for level 34 players. [;)]



friend18 -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 16:39:43)

I didn't have a problem facing two level 29's at level 34. I think it's fair that we should face level 30 opponents at level 35. This should make it more of a challenge, since many players are just using juggernaut for easy wins (notice the ridiculously high win ratios?). Juggernaut is not even a challenge for me. I can win it using a 1v1 build, a 2v2 build, OR a jugg build, which means that the mode is WAY too easy.



Master Volcon -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 16:48:46)

I think that you should fight the enemies like this:

1 enemy + 2 enemy = no more than a 59 level combined total and no less than a 50 level combined total.

So you can fight 2 level 25s or even a level 29 and a level 30.

Just increase the 59 and 50 level ranges by 2 for every level.

So at 35 it would be 61 and 52 thus equaling 2 level 26s and a 30&31



Sparticus -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 16:51:08)

Two level 29 players facing a level 34 Jug was fair, if not too easy.

The trouble with adding a one level jump against a level 35 Jug is the Jug added one level but, if they face two level 30 players, the level 30's gained two levels. Their combined advantage in battle is more then the one level the Jug gained so I would have to say, until the Jug reaches level 36, the opponents should remain at level 27-29.



Mecha Mario -> RE: Should Juggernaut matches have level 30 opponents? (7/18/2012 17:13:10)

Anything related to Juggernaut belongs in the official Juggernaut Discussion Thread. It can be found in the "Official Threads and Important Links" pin at the top of this board for your convenience.

For that reason, locking this up.



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