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Hottie19967 -> Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 8:03:11)

I cant find any players on juggernaut im the juggernaut ive waited allmost 10 mins now and nbodys letting me jugg them (not going on 2v2)



SouL Prisoner -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 8:08:28)

Yup, i think its time they increased the range :)



TRizZzCENTRINO -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 8:12:09)

this doesn't seem like the right thread for this topic, plus maybe you just managed to play when most of the people are having school or are asleep, there is always a time difference.



Remorse -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 8:27:03)

My guess is the fact if you press team battles when you hit 26 you get bombarded with juggers which most battles you lose. So they turn to solo, npcs or just quit.

Hopefully in omega juggers gets better for both sides and this might change.



drekon -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 11:19:29)

There's way more Juggernauts than there are available players in range. I was just doing some Jugg battles and entered a random World in the Exile server (Epic was full) and there were about 5 guys crowding around Slayer doing Jugg as well. The wait takes several minutes at times, but the battles are fairly easy. The unlucky opponents of a Juggernaut are often too inexperienced and ill-equipped to handle Juggernauts so, as Remorse pointed out, they go to other battle modes or just leave entirely. Perhaps, instead of increasing the range (making Jugg even easier), the staff could consider other options to prepare lower level players for the inevitable Juggernaut battles.



Mother1 -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 11:22:32)

Ever since they made Jug battles a faction thing the player pool has been strinking. Also like Remorse said these same people some of them are so sick of batting jugs that they either went to NPC, 1 vs 1 or they quit.



Thylek Shran -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 14:19:45)

In Omega the level range for duels could change because the power gap does.
Atm I loose alot jugg duels as the Jugg because the most 2vs2 players
use anti jugg builds and know how to beat juggs. I know of varium players that
have the same problem of loosing alot. So its not that Juggernauts are generally
overpowered. Its more that some classes work much better for this duel mode.



SylvanElf -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 14:24:25)

Agree with Thylek... some classes are great for it, others not so much.



the final hour -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 17:12:13)

yet almost every jugger has almost 100-1 wins to losses like me (in jugger) infact im above that as are most ofcourse people arent clicking 2v2 would you click a mode where you had a extremely low chance of winning doesnt matter how smart u r or how good you are if you get a rubbish partner ur screwed and the fact is even if you get a decent partner the odds of you winning unless ur both 30 both with boosters and a bit of luck and hope the jugger gets bad luck are extremely low .

its why i quit playing my alts in 2v2 once they got past lvl 25.

On my main level 35 i mean i love jugger free wins as i said above 100-1 win -loss without trying
almost as easy as npcing

however on my lower level chars i have no wish to click 2v2 or since juggernaut came up suicide mode

and honestly having been somebody on both sides of the coin nobody smart should ever click 2v2 between 26-30 as a jugger all you have to be is smart you have virtually no chance of loosing unless their extremely lucky yes luck happens but are you prepared to take that chance when most of the fights you get by clicking 2v2 are going to be jugger between 26-30?

thats what i thought :)

@thylek

yes some classes work better then others ill grant you that i would say a merc TM or TLM on ny build but 5 focus IA build have about 0.5% chnc of killing me in my experience assuming they have the IA bot 5 focus build that gos up to about 2.5%

a bh and BM prolly have a 5% chance of killing me assuming theyre using a extremely smart build and get alot of luck so yes some classes have a better chance at not dying then others still extremely low in my experience .



jzozezjzozez -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 18:35:05)

ya its tru, i joined a fac and we were going for jugg daly and i had to wat lik 10 min for 1 battel.



Thylek Shran -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 21:33:33)

quote:

yet almost every jugger has almost 100-1 wins to losses like me (in jugger)

I can easily proof that this is not true. Your right that some players have a high win rate.
but this does not represent all juggernauts. Here the facts from the leaderboards and those
are the most active and more successfull characters. The less sucessfull characters with a
bad win rate won´t get into the leaderboards at all and are not represented !

The best jugg in all-time leaderboard has a win rate of 97%.
The average in all-time leaderboard is 89%. (15 characters)
The average in todays wins is 80.6%. (15 characters)
The average in todays factions wins is 80%. (15 characters)


All-Time - Juggernaut Wins // 57.6 - 97.0%
Today - Juggernaut Wins // 44.9 - 98.6%
Today - Faction Juggernaut Wins // 61.0 - 92.5%



the final hour -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 22:39:51)

@thylek

to get on the leaderboards you need to have one of the faster builds and alot more time on your hands the most succesful build is not always the fastest kill. ontop of that the guys on the leaderboard are not the best i completely dispute that just they have alot more time on their hands dont have as much as the going on in reality . and i would catergorically (spell check) disagree that (maybe i should of said this earliar) varium smart player has the slightest bit of difficult in juggernaut aside from when they get two smart 30s or the opponents get ALOT of luck . and id also like to correct this i got mixed up earliar my record is not 100-1 . its 18-1 in juggernut which is still ridicolously high.the simple fact is to win a juggernaut i can in most cases easily do it just clicking strike and heal no skills nothing else required it takes absolutely no thought at all that AINT right .

i think any argument to say as juggernaut as it stands is anything but almost certain suicide for the opponents is absolutely ridicolous . however omega may make this mute and turn the tides against the juggernauts so we have the massive disadvantage the challengers are now facing . i think it would be poetic justice . I also think juggernauts will complain like mad well i shall see if im correct come omega.

but yeah i REFUSE to except juggernaut is fine how it is having been on both sides of the coin but i think the change to enhancements as i said will turn it so its not the juggernaut at a astronomical advantage it will be the challengers



Mother1 -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/10/2013 23:15:08)

May of the players I jug against don't play smart. If my opponents played smarter then they would last.

Some are ill prepared, but the one's that aren't just fight stupidly. So while some are OP others aren't and just don't work together.



Thylek Shran -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/11/2013 1:24:06)

@the final hour
quote:

to get on the leaderboards you need to have one of the faster builds and alot more time on your hands the most succesful build is not always the fastest kill.

Win rate is still important for the leaderboards. Thats why you dont see much characters with a low win rate there.
Time is a factor that every player has to deal with.


quote:


and i would catergorically (spell check) disagree that (maybe i should of said this earliar) varium smart player has the slightest bit of difficult in juggernaut aside from when they get two smart 30s or the opponents get ALOT of luck . and id also like to correct this i got mixed up earliar my record is not 100-1 . its 18-1 in juggernut which is still ridicolously high.the simple fact is to win a juggernaut i can in most cases easily do it just clicking strike and heal no skills nothing else required it takes absolutely no thought at all that AINT right .

So its about varium and the power gap. Because non varium players without high enhancements
have a low win rate in jugg. Varium players have even higher win rates in 1vs1 than in jugg so
I think that the jugg mode and the level range of matches is not the problem. The power gap
which is a big problem for all battle modes will get fixed in Omega mostly.



Dark Hyren -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/11/2013 5:57:58)

I don't agree . I even can't battle on 2 vs 2! When I play in 2 vs 2, I always encounter a juggernaut. I wish there were less juggs than normal 2 vs 2 players. Just sayin' . Over And Out!!



LatinLover/Martini -> RE: Running Out Of People For JuggerNaut (1/11/2013 9:16:06)

B PREP TO GO HARDe they lower the level gap especially now that enhancements will be taken away...



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