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Stabilis -> What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 12:17:18)

Do you think that your health increasing by level was a useful step in the balance plan, or no?



King Helios -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 12:20:24)

It was, but 74 energy for Cyber Hunter at 35 (I don't know it for other classes) is a bit much. You can do a level 4 malf and level 8 massacre without having to static or Generate.



King FrostLich -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 13:07:11)

Leveled Health - Yes
Leveled Mana - Neither Good or Bad


I'm not sure but having too much mana isn't good especially when facing 2v2. That means people get to abuse power moves that cost alot of mana.



Banir -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 14:28:56)

Leveled health is fine. Leveled energy is a terrible, terrible idea. You can do a lot of Massacres and Berzerkers without putting a point in your energy.



veneeria -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 14:37:14)

Pretty much what everyone else said, but i do use static charge anyway.

HOWEVER ! Having huge energy consumption from skills, makes energy points taking skills like emp grenade really freaking useful. [8D]



willendorf -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 14:51:40)

I have way too much energy... I only use a level 8 malf and level 6 cheapshot so I don't need all the extra... I kill fast enough that I don't use massacre it any other high using energy skill (finally found a build that works [:D])



Assassin01 -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 15:01:07)

The extra energy has made Bunker Buster builds annoying but oh how I love being able to malf and beat people.

*It has also made Massacre builds a bit more viable.



deltaknight7 -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 16:20:23)

im fine with the health but ive never needed soo much energy my builds ussaly have 50 at most
seems like a waste of stat points that i really need
as tact merc there arnt many good skills that need that much energy



legion of souls -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 17:14:06)

I think it was a step in the right direction



ValkyrieKnight -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/10/2013 20:46:12)

@ DeltaKnight

5 Focus Surgical Strike, enough said. With 70 energy and reroute, there's no way in hell of preventing that.



_i_am_a_helper_ -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/11/2013 1:07:31)

Good for me, but not most people. People who are smart would know that abusing health with at least 140 gives you a better chance of winning



sky222 -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/11/2013 2:42:59)

Nothing much
Energy though....I have desperately needed that



Ranloth -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/11/2013 2:53:32)

It's 1 HP/EP every two levels, right? I'd say fine with HP but EP shouldn't have been done so but 1 EP every four levels instead, so it won't be too high nor abuseable. If we want more, we can invest into EP & we already get a bit more every few levels so it wouldn't hurt. If "bad" then 1 EP every three levels, always less than now.



Hard boy -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/11/2013 4:12:13)

b4 the hp/mp boost, i had a build where i would beat nearly every str merc, then after the boost, they are the ones who got the advantage, i mean what would a tm or tlm do with 72 energy (except caster build), makes my reroute useless and now str mercs dont have to add any energy and they get free hp HURRAY they get more str and defenses.



Remorse -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/11/2013 4:23:32)

I quite enjoy the higher energy,

Yes it allows abusive STR builds more power, but that is a separate problem.


As they add more skill core with any draining factors, over time, Most of you will find that this extra energy is useful.


Don't blame the abusive STR attacks reasoning to lower it,

Instead demand a quicker balance adjustment on the STR attacks.

The higher energy without sacrifice in defense or power means that creative builds that have higher costing attacks can stand more of a chance.


So IMO it is indirectly adding to variety,

Dont try to argue with me that it makes some builds to overpowered,


As soon as the skill core count rises they should be means to counter anything.

And when that happens you will be hearing the statement don't complain your lack of strategy is what is causing you to lose.



I am a blood mage (Low STR focus hybrid with supercharge), I have NO skill energy drain, yet I can manage to drain my opponents energy from builds like the surgical strike builds already using the 2 energy drain skills (frostbite, Sidearm skill core) at this early on in omega already.


If you class has an energy drain skill also you should have absolutely NO excuse.



Hard boy -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/11/2013 4:27:36)

@remorse but that still doesnt change the fact that they released this hp/mp boost in the complete wrong time, without nerfing str neither fixing back technician or reflex (although they do work if ur not malfed, but i cant afford putting technician in my build since it doesnt do its full job).



Remorse -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/11/2013 4:30:52)

^ I completely agree,


But now is time for patience,


Wait for them to continue the balance changes further on, and be thankful they haven't started the golden yeti tournament during this time, giving us extra reason to be patient.

It probably would of been preferable to do the STR skill adjustments first I agree,

But they shouldn't be too far away.



TimeKiller -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/12/2013 2:30:16)

Need more health



Darkwing -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/12/2013 3:08:48)

health good, energy bad. I have 73 base energy and reroute, I never worry that I run out of energy. and I din't put a single point in energy.



blade98 -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/12/2013 3:28:24)

I think it's ok ,but abusers are more happy with this.


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theholyfighter -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/12/2013 3:31:10)

I think it's worth a try! However, perhaps increasing the credits-gain? Because battles will be looooooooong.



nico0las -> RE: What do You Think of Levelled Health? (2/13/2013 0:04:04)

I think it worked, but I think progressing energy in the same way was wrong.
Not only are we giving for FREE abusive builds energy points, so they can invest in more strength, for example, but there is no need for so much energy!



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