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zanathos -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/3/2014 9:07:33)

I still want to know how the hero knew about Desolich. And even more important, if the hero has known about desolich, how long does it need to be until we decide he's a threat worth hunting down and adressing?

Also, I'm glad Desolich is finally the canon name.



Neilandio -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/3/2014 9:26:50)

Desolich was always the canon name.



zanathos -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/3/2014 12:37:40)

I had thought this was the first time Desoloth was referred to ingame as the Desolich, but upon watching the etherstorm cutscene again, i was apparently mistaken. Either way, there is still no way the Hero should know desolich's name nor existence.



Neilandio -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/3/2014 13:54:50)

Maybe the dravix told the hero about Desolich? They must have noticed a giant undead chaotic dragon flying out of the dragonplane at some point.



Red Blue -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/3/2014 22:02:38)

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A shapeshifter.

See... A ShapeShifter... Like in my Theory..
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Biggest Plot Twist!! What if The 13th Lord of Chaos is actually Drakath, And Drakath(fake) Now make the Real Champ of Chaos(real Drakath)
as the 13th Lord of Chaos.. And when we Kill the Real Drakath we are actually Helping the Fake Drakath to Kill it..
So, That is why This Drakath (fake) Kill People.. :D *Just saiyin..

Fake Drakath is a Shapeshifter... [:D]



Promotheus -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/3/2014 22:38:33)

What if...the shapeshifter that they mean is that girl with the red hair who kept shapeshifting uncontrollably in the elemental damage release? I know some people would be against considering she was introduced in DragonFable, but I'd be really interested in a possible villain like that. Besides, what was the point of bringing her in AQW if she was going to play in just one release? [&:] Maybe the team were setting her up for the Hero to be acquainted first, THEN put in as an enemy? That'd be cool.

EDIT: @v I'm on mobile, so I cant really see what was said, bit I'm assuming it was something countering my statement xD BTW, haven't finished (or even started) the recent Dragon arc, so I don't know what had happened yet.



thulsa doom -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/3/2014 22:45:11)

@Prometheus
The same thought occurred to me too. Especially since the last cutscene for the Save the Dragons release ended with an
spoiler:

"ACHOO"



Lemonus -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/4/2014 13:08:29)

Woah, I just noticed Drakath has "Dad's Medal" equipped and his face has "Arrogance" on his Char page. Lol.

Also miscs letter called "Letter from Mom" and the tears. Also a cape called a DA.

He has 3 books, a mirror and a "Build a Chaos Beast Playset". Also Quibble's schedule.

You guys probably know about this already but eh, still pretty funny.



Neilandio -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/4/2014 17:46:10)

I think the shapeshifter was Kitsune, the mage Escherion and the guardian Vath. I see no reason to believe Drakath was talking about the last three chaos lords during that cutscene.
Anyway, wasn't a clue, given a long time ago, that the last chaos lord could travel to the mirror realm?
EDIT: Found the clue I was talking about, it's from the design notes of November 12, 2013. Quoting:
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[...]
The 13th Lord of Chaos can travel in both our world... and the Mirror Realm. So since we're finishing the 2nd Lord of Chaos Saga[...]



ShadowMoon -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/4/2014 18:19:41)

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[...]
The 13th Lord of Chaos can travel in both our world... and the Mirror Realm. So since we're finishing the 2nd Lord of Chaos Saga[...]

guess the second chaos lord is the exception, unless xing & xang can't travel between wile unfused. guess the best way to stop xaing for passing into the D.D. is with a de-fusion....



Vilius -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/8/2014 11:50:49)

I think the last Chaos Lord is the Hero.

1. Drakath says to King Alteon and the Hero: I will save you two for last.

2. I think the creators will make the Chaos Lord the Hero cuz its unexcepted by the players.



The Jop -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/8/2014 11:59:08)

The only problem there is that it's not unexpected at all. You could see that it's been said ever since Drakath was introduced, if you read the forums regularly.



Jolan3000 -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/8/2014 23:44:47)

I have a theory about the END of Drakath.
When Drakath makes MoM free, MoM will kill Drakath because is useless for her now and because MoM wants to be the champion of chaos so the power she gives to drakath come back with her.

Please, say what you think about my theory. :)

(Sorry for my english xD)



Shadowhunt -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/8/2014 23:50:58)

^ I thought it was confirmed that Drakath isn't the Champion of Chaos, so killing him wouldn't make the killer the Champion.

Also, the 13th LoC will be a dimension. Time or Space, though probably Space as Iadoa was sort of Time. I have figured it out [:D]



Jolan3000 -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/8/2014 23:54:53)

Drakath is the Champion of Chaos.
How it isn't?



Hollow Knight -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/8/2014 23:57:43)

Drakath has been named on two different occasions both the Champion of Chaos and the Avatar of Chaos.



Jolan3000 -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/8/2014 23:59:38)

But Mirror Drakath is the Champion of Order, so Drakath is the Champion of Chaos.



Coypirus -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/9/2014 9:16:25)

The MoM is already more powerful than the Avatar of Chaos. She was the one who granted Drakath his power, and thus is more powerful than Drakath. She has no need to kill him, as granting him power does not necessarily take it away from her.



301st Legion -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/9/2014 9:27:31)

I'm still vouching for Lord Brentan to be the 13th Lord of Chaos. He possesses all the characteristics that I want to see in the one last and final Chaos Lord. First of all, he is an original character to the game. He wasn't just derived from other AE games. Second, he doesn't seem like a King with a powerful and good will. He seems arrogant, especially in one of those cutscenes in the Shadowfall Alliance where is seemingly grim and bitter towards the fact that Victoria is claiming the Throne of Swordhaven. So maybe he would seem fitting as to turn out as a villain, adding a twist to the story.



Red Komet -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/10/2014 13:52:27)

The Desolich Saga revealed that Drakath knew Desolich's Nature the whole time

Anyway wonder when The Hero is going to fight Desolich after he is revived again



Jolan3000 -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/10/2014 23:40:11)

Maybe the 13 Lord of Chaos is the Celestial Dragon Egg.



kaos rules x -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/11/2014 0:38:28)

If Drakath were to make that dragon egg the next lord of chaos, he could probably cause quite a bit of chaos with that.
If the egg is balancing us in the mirror realm, and it were to be chaorupted, would that cause us to feel some sort of chaoruption as well, or even alter our perception to chaos a little bit?

I know the mirror realm doesn't necessarily work like that, but since our existence was shaky before we found the egg, I think that's viable plot.

It'd also fall in line with Drakath's words of saving the hero and Alteon for last.
Chaos has seemed to touch every other part of Lore at this point, and if Drakath were to chaorupt our counterpart, our very essence would come under attack personally.



Jolan3000 -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/11/2014 0:45:11)

No because if our counter part is the 13 Lord of Chaos, we will be the 13 Lord of Order.
And that has sense because the Hero wants to balance all.



kaos rules x -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/11/2014 1:07:35)

Not exactly. Just because someone is champion in our realm doesn't mean that their counterpart is the opposite champion in the Mirror Realm.
I highly doubt Artix is a champion in the Mirror Realm and that saga occurred long before the first saga in Doomwood.

I fall under the notion that both the mirror realm and our Lore share champions, which is why we don't have any Lords of order in our Lore.

When the Mirror Realm first came out, our hero could travel freely through that border with no consequence.
Now the hero has a counter-balance that wasn't there or necessary to begin with in the saga.

It's been shown in the past that we didn't need a balance. If that statement held any bearing of truth, we could hypothetically exist separately without the egg once again.
It could also be possible that we're leading to a critical moment to combine with the egg, offsetting the balance everywhere, and using a new and completed power to fight Drakath.

It's really all up in the air at this moment, I sincerely hope that loose ends get tied together well in the coming months.



Red Komet -> RE: =AQW= 13 Lords/Beasts of Chaos Discussion Thread (5/11/2014 3:16:06)

Also Drakath did say The Hero is meant to Serve Chaos



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