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Onlythestrong -> lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 18:22:00)

this bot is over power People raging in less then 3 turn then and surgical strike is not enough and the bot do alot of deal of damage itself so i suggest this. this build is seoiry over power in 2vs2 2 people raging at the same time is insane plz neft this bot
old version
190bot damage
50%rage to ally and yourself

New version
170bot damage
Grant 40% rage in 1vs1 or if ur the jugernaut
Grant30%rage2vs2 and jug




lionblades -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 18:28:33)

lol already? It hasn't even been 5 min since the release...



Onlythestrong -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 18:32:07)

This bot is super OP in 2vs2 something have to be done 2 people raging in 2v2 at once is insane and the damage the bot has himself is so much more stronger then any other bot



The berserker killer -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 18:40:11)

omg im sorry but im laughing out loud right now. come on, give it a chance



Cyber Dream -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 18:43:46)

So basically, they just took the Merc skill, Adrenaline, and put it into a bot...thus making it available to every class. Yea im not so happy about that. Is ED really trying to make every class the same? Trust me....this is a pvp game. That won't go so well.....people will stop buying things and the game will get even more boring that it is already becoming. Sorry for the harsh words but if this is what it takes for you to realize what you're doing then.....



Onlythestrong -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 18:55:44)

cyber dream i can agree with you they took the mer skill and turn it into a robot specail seroiuy and now its overpowered



lionblades -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 19:00:32)

Is the core reusable?

EDIT: Yep, the bot core is reusable. I just tested with a friend. Personally I don't think its that powerful (in 1vs1 anyways) since you need to miss a turn for it to work. Its like a mid level merc adrenaline skill that can be reused over and over again.
In 2vs2 I've seen 2 people use it. It's useful but I wouldn't say its OP.



Cyber Dream -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 19:31:59)

I wouldn't say that it is OP now that we can see the rage bar. In a way...this bot and this update brought a little strategy into ed. I like it



Onlythestrong -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 20:21:09)

But the damage of the bot is too strong and the rage given amount is alot



Goony -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 22:02:03)

I'd hardly call the bot over powered, basically the team has sacrificed 2 turns of damage to both get rage (if they both have new bot)

The thing is a rage attack doesn't give more damage than 2 turns of normal strikes, so how can you possibly say it's OP... There are way too many counters and the turn they use to activate it costs them damage and normal rage gain. That's why adrenaline is a failed skill and no one uses it :/ If adrenaline wasn't a redundant skill before, then it is now since the bot is equivalent to a level 4 adrenaline for no energy cost ;)



Rui. -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 22:28:54)

This bot looks so Awesome .. it scares the hell out of the opponent..

It is soo OP that you can win by scaring the opponent... the art factor on this needs to be reduced.. seriously..

Its just too AWESOME !



santonik -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/6/2014 23:00:18)

GOONY@
I agree you.



Others

I buying this bot. And i have few test battles and i have to saying this. Bot isnt OP. I have more loses than victorys in this new bot.
If you want rage (50%), you MUST SACRIFICE ATTACK TURN (bot attack) (i play mercenary, here 2vs2 battles)

190 attack power feeling very powerful fisrt. but if you want use special it cost attack turn/s. That is both sides good and bad. Good is rage gaining 50% user and hes/her partner. Bad side is no attack at all.

190 damage bot in this game is yetis bot whit primary. Primary give +10 damage bot damage is 180. Total damage is 190. Same what is this LION BOT (190).
Why peoples dont say it is OP powerfull??? THis yeti bots.

I have play 5 focus build. (only now)

Perhaps time show more this LION bot. Good and bad sides. (How it is effective to differents builds.)






ScarletReaper -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/7/2014 9:12:15)

I don't think it is op, however it is kinda annoying that it does more damage than my bloodhawk. All weapons and armor are equal in damage, so why aren't bots?



Cyber Dream -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/7/2014 11:37:25)

Alot of bot does more damage than your bloodhawk. We should still be complaining about the IA!



Exploding Penguin -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/7/2014 13:09:15)

Haven't seen it in 2v2, but here's what I think:

On focus builds definitely not worth it because 190 base damage is just massive (the new highest) and sacrificing that really hurts your damage output. In 1v1 it's extremely inefficient. In 2v2 it might be useful but only in particular situations



King Bling -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/8/2014 9:56:38)

OMG thts wht i wud say.....why?....cuz if someone goes a 5 focus tank build with all armo points in physical and all stats in resistance then the lion bot's dmg will be 660.... yes just imagine a bot dmg 660!!! nothing else to say.....





By the wat onlythestrong why do you even bother, dont let it get nerfed........its gona come in-game some day then we will too be OPs....
;)))



Exploding Penguin -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/8/2014 15:44:21)

In 1v1 if you just want solid damage then a fully upgraded yeti is still better IMO. It's special has more application and it only has 10 less base damage, which can be boosted to lionhart's equivalent if you have the omega promos too.



Armored986 -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/22/2014 16:10:09)

It's not OP, but should be, because people will not to spend money for useless stuff.
(I haven't that bot).



GearzHeadz -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/22/2014 16:59:42)

Nothing should be OP. And even if they don't want the bot, they get it for free when they buy varium.



Mother1 -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/22/2014 17:36:14)

@ srmored986

Yeah and that is the main reason why just about every bot in the game got a nerf since they were overpowered.

Assault bot P and E
Gamma Bot
Azreal borg
Infernal android (Numerous nerfs on this one)
Black abyss bot P and E

All of these bots got nerfs and aside from the Assault bot and infernal android the others were varium bots.



ScarletReaper -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/22/2014 19:44:44)

The bot's special ability is honestly not that worth it to sacrifice a turn. particularly in 1v1. As for the damage, it is barely more than the omega yeti, and the same with omega promo weapons, so not that op in that area either.



comicalbike -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/23/2014 4:23:43)

well the problem is everyone shouts op and they nerf then in the old days when titan ran it we never had that problem, thats another reason to leave the game , as you pay good money or credits to but thing and straightaway they get nerfed,so the players are hissed of and leave .



Noobatron x3000 -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/23/2014 18:06:29)

The rage ability on the lion heart is pretty bad now that you can see rage its pretty easy to counter, Surgical strike / chairmans fury / if your in 2v2 use azrael to force them to attack the person they don't want to or stop them raging decen damage, I thank the guys using lion giving me a advantage since I'm using a bot that doesn't suck.



Combatoid -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/23/2014 23:10:35)

I haven't even seen or fought this bot, but it sounds stupidly overpowered.. I support the idea of nerfing it down to 40% in 1v1's/Juggs and like 30-35% in 2v2's.



xzkamityx -> RE: lionhart bot op (6/29/2014 18:10:03)

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I haven't even seen or fought this bot, but it sounds stupidly overpowered.. I support the idea of nerfing it down to 40% in 1v1's/Juggs and like 30-35% in 2v2's.


I think I figured out why there are so many unbalanced issues in the game, people are supporting nerfs/buffs on things such as the lionhart bot which isn't even op at all when they have never even seen it used. the lionhart bot is not op at all, yes it lets all classes use adrenaline rush(for the "small" price of 2900 varium) but who even uses adrenaline? The bots rage gain in a 1vs1 is terrible as it deals no damage while that turn could be used by a strength build using strike to get 30% of their rage and do damage. in a 2vs2 the only way I could see it being op is if two dex mages have it on their team, they both get rage, they both use stun, and the opponents can't use anything to take their rage gain(such as platinum's pride).Lets face it, your not going to see that at the lower levels of about 2-25 if you do your just that unlucky.



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