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The Finnish Phoenix -> RE: =OS= Tournament of Champions (9/1/2018 16:10:03)
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Thank you for responding. [:)]
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I can take critism but I roll my eyes when people start calling me different things
With due respect, nobody here called you anything (I checked) so there's no need for you to roll your eyes at anyone. Some consider eye-rolling "honestly just quite rude".
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The plan was after this tournament, another would follow which was muucchhh more detailed and thought out. The first is like this because its my little experiment. But as it is right now, I probably can't with the number of entrants, let alonne the possible number of no shows.
If you can't then there are others who can and there are others who can and will be hosting unofficial tournaments. If you were to mention them on the channels that you have, that could help promote them. Alina assisted in promoting and sponsoring prizes for D a w n's and DragonNation's tournaments, both of which were successful. Just because you can't do it doesn't mean there shouldn't be any official promotion of OverSoul, so if you can't then it would make sense for someone else to be given the chance to do so moving forward. Kiyone for example has hosted multiple successful tournaments here including Void Wars which was officially promoted.
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3) Yes, I did design Moosey boi's deck.
Kudos, it's a cool deck and stronger than Earth Elemental's.
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4) The earth elemental ban
A looootttt of people are not happy with this ban. This goes back to first day release complaints. If hes suddenly fell off a little, thats just me being old and I will use the "BACK IN MY DAY" defense.
I'm glad that this can be acknowledged. That said, the same principle applies to Fiend of Vergill Boss, WitchBlade Boss, PumpkinLord which were powercrept by characters like Monk, Dire Monk and Taro which were in turn powercrept by characters like Thok and Clan King.
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Also lets not say "x deserves/doesn't deserve to be a tester" thats honestly just quite rude
Okay, but why would it be rude to say that we have people deserving of staff roles? That was intended as a compliment to Kiyone, The Jop, clinton, atreue, Bionic Bear, the warden, Dr Disrespect, and Aura Knight, all of whom have been playing for years and want to see this game not only exist but thrive. Bionic Bear mentioned that the players on the forums include the most hardcore or devoted players, and that's true. I never said that you don't deserve the role and I'd prefer that we have more staff than less. When we were receiving updates you weren't the only tester and it doesn't make any more sense for you to be the only tester now. With the game struggling for revival, it's all the more necessary to have all hands on deck.
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I don't know what the twitter population is like, but the people on the OS forums are pretty hardcore. Most of us here have spent money on SGs and the all-important x-boosts. But for the average player, getting a character to level 20 is a monstrous grind. To get to level 20 (and thus be competitive in a tournament) a free player needs 606 wins, according to the wiki. That's a lot of time dedicated to a single character, considering that OS battles take a few minutes. As a casual player, I know that before I bought SGs, I despaired of ever getting anywhere close to 20. Even afterwards, I only have 1 level 20 character, a hanzo void that I leveled up for some reason, even though it's not a particularly good character.
So look at it from this perspective. You're a free player who really likes this cool-looking giant moose man that you captured once. Since he was so cool, you spent the majority of your OS time leveling him up. He's a legendary, so he must be good, right? After working for hours and hours, you finally get him to level 20. Some time later, you hear about a tournament on twitter. You want to enter with this character that you have put so much time into and then you find out that he's banned.
I appreciate your perspective as it applies to approaching a ban list in general as while mine is of a player who has levelled to 20 over a hundred times, I understand that that's not reflective of the community as a whole. It's common sense for any player to first and foremost gravitate towards the best characters and custom cards available to them. With that in mind and all else being equal, bans on the most powerful characters and custom cards would affect more players than bans on lesser characters/cards. That doesn't mean that less powerful characters/cards should be banned instead of more powerful characters, as the less powerful characters are already handicapped in their chances to win by being less powerful. With equally skilled pilots, Fiend of Vergill Boss, WitchBlade Boss and PumpkinLord are already at a disadvantage against Clan King, for them to be banned instead of Clan King, kicking them further into the ground when the odds were already against them is totally unnecessary and at that point it would be better to allow them all since those affected by the bans on Fiend of Vergill Boss, WitchBlade Boss and PumpkinLord wouldn't just be affected but needlessly affected. So yes, while banning the most powerful characters would affect more players, that's the point of a ban list in preventing stagnation and promoting diversity in character choice so that we don't all play Chaos Drakath or Clan King. A tournament should be accessible to as many players as possible, but shouldn't be winnable without certain degrees of effort and creativity. There is no casual vs. competitive dichotomy insofar as a tournament is concerned, because players must necessarily adopt a competitive mindset due to tournaments being a necessarily competitive event. The game could benefit from having non-competitive or co-operative events such as wars as they're held in games like AQ and DF in addition to tournaments, but tournaments are great incentives for otherwise casual players to play the game more regularly and become immersed. Retaining players is as important as drawing them.
If anything is going to be banned, the most powerful characters and cards should take precedence. That said, driving players away as in your scenario with Tyrant Moose should be avoided where possible. To that end I'd propose that tournaments be announced well in advance of taking place - even if it's a few months ahead of time then so be it. In addition to giving players more time to prepare, there'd be more time for more players to sign up resulting in a larger turnout. That's something the Dragon Nation tournament benefitted from to an extent by being announced a few weeks before it started.
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