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3/1/2011 13:09:11   
Drianx
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^^Sorry, but I think most of complaints come from people who were complaining about support mercs, and then about str bounties.

Only newbies expect to be able to win every single fight. Once you can constantly get above 80%, be happy with it. You and your build are good.
AQW Epic  Post #: 76
3/1/2011 13:30:44   
Angels Holocaust
Member

The reason why these strength noobs are so powerful is because of Agility, it makes two turn kill builds useful. If agility were removed this whole problem would be solved.
Post #: 77
3/1/2011 14:42:40   
TurkishIncubus
Member

^ yes but only removing agility isnt enough , make Maul Require Tech or Support. STR build fast and higher ratio than normal builds :S
Epic  Post #: 78
3/1/2011 14:49:42   
8x
Member

^If they put requirement on Maul, mercs would just use Double Strike.

< Message edited by 8rlx0 -- 3/1/2011 14:50:00 >
Epic  Post #: 79
3/1/2011 16:19:03   
TurkishIncubus
Member

^ If i dont lose 1 turn with stun i will have a chance to win them.

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Epic  Post #: 80
3/1/2011 16:24:18   
Nebula
Member

@8rlx0 Yeah, but Double Strike is so much less dangerous that Maul. With a requirement on it, it can greatly lowers the effectiveness of those Maul-Bezerker combos. If Mercs start to use Double Strike + Bezerker other players will actually get a chance to defend themselves and not be 2-hit-ko'd without being able to fight back.
Post #: 81
3/1/2011 17:03:28   
voidance
Member

I cant prove it but from being a merc in the past i know if you double strike then berserker back to back, one is bound to miss. Like i said i cant prove it but i just know it happens alot.
AQW Epic  Post #: 82
3/1/2011 19:14:28   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

@Turkish Horrid idea.We all know stat requiremnets on everytthing is what is ruining this game its forcing all to have 4 or 5 focus.We have to put just 40 points into one stat.To use just one skill and its just messed up.
AQW Epic  Post #: 83
3/1/2011 19:33:48   
Wandering Guardian
Member

@edwardvulture

I suggest you do your homework in future before making derogatory comments.

1. I'm not a strength abuser, I don't even 1v1, I mainly use 4 focus builds in 2v2.
2. My message was not to stop the complaining, merely highlighting the fact that within a month of now I can guarantee 3 more threads stating something along the lines of 'I'm sick of x stat/skill being abused by x class'.

~WG
AQW Epic  Post #: 84
3/1/2011 19:43:49   
ShadowQupid
Member
 

 Mehh... I made a build tht won 75% of batles vs str mercs.. and my new build defeats from 80 to 90% of all str builds ... sooo Mercs rent rlly tht difficult if you are smart enough to make a good all around build.. litterally... I defeat str bounties in 3 turns if they dnt use the assault bot an dif they do... I beat them in 4-6 turns... well a lot of them... I still cnt seem to defeat dax :/

Str mercs: Energy... I have pretty high resist and if thts not enough.. I tech up
Physicsl: I have 29+1 def and then a 28 def matrix... and 50 heal... NUFF said.

Tech mages: Well I rlly just go with the flow... they have a lot of different strategies because of all the confusion I lose to about 40-60% of them.

soo yeah, get creative.. use your brain... I'm pretty young and can do all this easily sooo come on guys ;) lol
AQW Epic  Post #: 85
3/1/2011 19:46:27   
helloguy
Member

Im using a Tech mage strength build,only for NPC's. I still think Strength Merc are OP
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 86
3/1/2011 20:13:34   
od
Member

Like I said in a previous post, the reqs.on skills have 2 make sense. How does it require technical skills to bash an opponent?(maul)

< Message edited by od -- 3/1/2011 20:58:29 >
Epic  Post #: 87
3/1/2011 20:19:47   
voidance
Member

Must be real hard to either decide to strike or strike so yea it does take "technical skills" LOL.
AQW Epic  Post #: 88
3/2/2011 1:52:25   
King FrostLich
Member

You do know people that putting stat requirements would just make them stop turning to str mercs but back to tanker types which are far more dangerous than str mercs even though str mercs kill people in 2 turns.
Epic  Post #: 89
3/2/2011 2:25:23   
voidance
Member

Tech merc's are alot safer to fight then str merc's, my regular build does a 40 malfunction and the aux and sidearm wreck in damage so lowering there tech makes em weaker and makes me hit higher.
AQW Epic  Post #: 90
3/2/2011 2:30:11   
King FrostLich
Member

@voidance

No offense to your epic malf that can drain up to 40 tech, but tanker mercs have about 87 tech with a +8 armor nowadays and agility which is equal to 32-39+8+1 resistance. If they have assault bot and debuff your malf, whats your best bet??
Epic  Post #: 91
3/2/2011 2:50:55   
voidance
Member

Most tech merc's i fight use physical armors and always gamma bots, so for the 1-2 i have fought with energy armor and assault bot i guess ile be getting rage fast and alot.

< Message edited by voidance -- 3/2/2011 2:51:28 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 92
3/2/2011 3:26:12   
charwelly
Member

Well us "Str noobs" have a goal and that is to win when we win goal complete same goal as everyone eles...
Ok so we abuse str big deal everyone has probbly made a build where they abuse some stat so i don't see the problem with it

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AQW Epic  Post #: 93
3/2/2011 3:40:13   
PivotalDisorder
Member

When you see a massive increase in one particular build being used and then see records like 500 wins 90 losses
on mercs that you know for a fact do the same thing in every fight, their is a balance issue. no one wants mercs
nerfing to the point where they are unplayable, or were that build becomes completely useless, we just want balance.

< Message edited by Jehannum -- 3/2/2011 3:57:05 >
Post #: 94
3/2/2011 3:41:48   
voidance
Member

Yea ive even posted 3 on forums but they are all labeled FUN builds, not "I wanna be cheap and abuse this till it gets nerf'd" builds.
AQW Epic  Post #: 95
3/2/2011 3:59:56   
  Digital X

Beep Beep! ArchKnight AQ / ED


 @Jehannum, you bring up a good point. Those who have high numbers in a given stat basically have to go through a "routine" in battle for said battle to even be effective and give them a chance of winning. A Merc with 100+ STR probably won't have a great deal of Support so Auxillary has probably been thrown out the window there and they rely on their club/sword/gun with the Stunzerk combo. In nearly every match with a STR Merc that i have been in they have done the same two skills each time; Maul and Bezerker, if the stun happens to miss then they'll more than likely be left with very little choice apart from using their Sidearm or the Strike attack.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 96
3/2/2011 13:26:30   
5rr5
Banned


 If u say it is hard to beat str builds then why don't u do 99 support and max intimidate?
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 97
3/3/2011 2:15:25   
charwelly
Member

^lol not everyone here is a merc

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    3/4/2011 0:04:43   
    edwardvulture
    Member

    		Simple solution: Nerf strength after 64.
    AQ DF MQ  Post #: 99
    3/4/2011 0:12:40   
    W4r0ft1t4ns
    Member

    		I wouldn't call them "noobs" it's a type of strategy if you can not beat someone with that strategy then you should create a build that is anti-strength if you need to.

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