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6/27/2011 13:35:40   
Goony
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 @ Comical, I agree it's not fair and should be changed...

Made a lot of posts about this topic, but back in February this was proposed: http://forums2.battleon.com/f/tm.asp?m=18288662&mpage=2&key=#: Post: 38 Sparticus adjusted my idea!

The whole WD system needs a revamp, but I don't know if it's high on the agenda and very little has been said about it for some time now.

I guess if we looked at this feature in isolation it would appear that it's just about the money and the developers don't really care for the players! Perhaps they can fix it before the game goes from testing into a real game as it is one of the biggest letdowns with playing the game...
Epic  Post #: 26
6/27/2011 13:43:00   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

^ Your pretty much saying you want WD to be based soley on paying varium just like pretty much everything else in this game e.e , if anything we need to move away from war kills or at least change the way we pay for them, prices are bad enough!


it might sound that way.
but really it isn't 1500 influence for a george lowe cannon wont do much if ur fac is inactive. 1500 is about 300 wins for an active fac.
what u could do is lower it down to 1000 varium = 1000 influence. this way people can use the war kills system but it wont have as much of an effect unless used in a large ammount (like $100 worth of war kills)
AQW Epic  Post #: 27
6/27/2011 14:13:19   
Raph21
Member

^ You do know that some factions rely on flags and some wins instead of cannons to win WD right?
Time is also an important factor here, cannons just take away the hard work and time people put in from just a simple click.


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DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 28
6/27/2011 14:17:15   
goldslayer1
Member

@raph
yeah but heres the thing
20 people firing a GL cannon = 30k for the allignment win
20 people from 20 different fac = only 1k influence per cannon for each fac
if all of those 20 people are from different facs. the cannon only benefits the fac that he's in and not the one thats ontop for WD alone.
and remember 2 factions will get allignment domination ( name change it to alignment domination)
so if i fire a GL cannon
and u fire a GL cannon
its gonna benefit that fac thats got first place for WD
its gonna befefit our fac whether its ontop or not. and thats the big difference.
AQW Epic  Post #: 29
6/27/2011 16:09:03   
Drago9999
Member

Yes, it is waste of varium using the cannons just to get WD. I prefer the old tradition of the entire faction fighting together to win this achivement.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 30
6/27/2011 16:13:06   
Angels Holocaust
Member

World domination needs to be changed, back to the way that it used to be. We shouldn't have war cannons which make all the difference in the game. As for both sides winning world domination, that was another bad idea for this game, how can there be two winners in WD? There is only 1 world and that is Delta V, only one side can prevail. As for flags that's another bad joke implemented by the devs, why is the first faction the only ones getting taxed? No everyone should be treated equally and not just the first faction, another bad mistake by the devs.
Post #: 31
6/27/2011 16:15:26   
Retrosaur
Member
 

 @Angels,
Correction: All the factions are taxed no matter what, win or lose, it's just at different percentages. I mean, the devs aren't obviously going to roleplay the US economy *cough* tax the poor *cough*..
AQW Epic  Post #: 32
6/27/2011 16:15:53   
goldslayer1
Member

quote:

As for both sides winning world domination, that was another bad idea for this game, how can there be two winners in WD? There is only 1 world and that is Delta V, only one side can prevail.

thats why i said change it into alignment domination AD. it sounds better and makes more sense when 2 win.
hyped
only the 16 factions in the WD boards get taxxed.
but not the rest.

< Message edited by goldslayer1 -- 6/27/2011 16:17:02 >
AQW Epic  Post #: 33
6/27/2011 16:45:18   
Retrosaur
Member
 

 Oh really? I thought it was 10% for the first, 9 for the second, and the rest got like 1% tax or something....
AQW Epic  Post #: 34
6/27/2011 16:50:37   
goldslayer1
Member

@hyped
nope its just 25% for first place

1st: 25% tax
2nd: 21% tax
3rd: 18 % tax
4th: 16 % tax
5th: 14 % tax
6th: 12% tax
7th: 11% tax
8th: 10% tax
the rest is 0%
AQW Epic  Post #: 35
6/27/2011 16:51:56   
Retrosaur
Member
 

 ahhh makes sense thanks goldslayer :D (i have you as my buddy on ed, mebbe we can 2v1 after delta?)
AQW Epic  Post #: 36
6/27/2011 16:54:25   
goldslayer1
Member

@hyped
sure lol.
AQW Epic  Post #: 37
6/27/2011 18:36:53   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 I like old way to but that doesn't mean you can't win Wd on legion side. Exile would be harder because you need a flags to win WD. If we had old way you would need flag and dsx will be OPed again and legit faction gave up try go for 1vs1 as soon angels stop trying.
AQ Epic  Post #: 38
6/28/2011 2:30:31   
edwardvulture
Member

I hate how temporary nerd crazy factions like Control Alt Death just take WD's then disband. They're all gone by then. I especially hate it when a faction that was just ahead by me a little bit scoops up a WD and disbands. I'm not saying this can be fixed but there's always a temporary domination made out of all the top guns that eventually just disband and leave other factions in the dust.
AQ DF MQ  Post #: 39
6/28/2011 2:36:46   
xxmirxx
Member
 

 DUDE they got skill and very good players.They actually work hard your just jealous because your faction isn't good.
AQ Epic  Post #: 40
6/28/2011 3:13:57   
VIX
Member

@EdwardVulture : I am Vix The leader of Control alt Death, i wanted to comment on something you said :

- " About Disbanding ": Last time i disbanded cuz some problems in Real life happenned then Quit ED and came back after 3 months, but this time whatever was the reason Control alt Death will never be Disbanded.

- "About winning WDs" : i don't really care about WDs atm but why not winning ? we're working hard and i think we deserve something called WD Right ? :) .

-Control alt Death Forever ;)

-VIX




Epic  Post #: 41
6/28/2011 3:33:02   
Remorse
Member

I think my easy to change propsal for War kills cost would be apropriate which is make them cost battle tockens this means that the cost incorporates time into War kills as it takes time to get tockens this means effort will be put into winning WD rather then the clicking of a button, what do you guys think?? It will also be fare to those who already spent varium on this feature as they will have a major advantage in the amount of war kills compared to the total amount of tockens they have aquired

< Message edited by Remorse -- 6/28/2011 3:35:57 >
Epic  Post #: 42
6/28/2011 6:58:09   
Luna_moonraider
Member

@ goldslayer

well srry for replying late 50-60 2v2 per person i kinda easy for a 2v2 faction but 2v2 takes way longer than 1v1. in 1v1 u can always do some npc and get fast wins so basically it much easier to get wins as a 1v1 player compared to a 2v2 player.

back to topic: i think the winning side and the losing side should both get taxed.

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AQW Epic  Post #: 43
6/28/2011 8:04:08   
Goony
Constructive!


 Try this:

The top 8 influential factions from either side get taxed!
The top influential faction on the winning side gets WD!
Each faction varium weapon can only be fired once per hour. You can fire credit only faction weapons as much as you like! That means to get daily war kills you will need to stay online a lot more and coordinate with your fellow faction members so that they don't use the weapon instead!

You can't change the system dramatically since there is an all time LB and a daily war kills LB...

I don't know what to do about the flags, but 50k+ battle tokens seems a little extreme. Maybe increase hourly tax on flag holder from 50 to 200 tokens... So instead of it costing 1200 to hold a flag for the day it would increase to 4800. Since NPC's no longer require 20 tokens to fight there seems to be more tokens in the game and with missions giving a few hundred.

Haven't kept an eye on WD for some time now, it doesn't have quite the thrill as it did when it was solely based on wins and later also flag influence...

< Message edited by Goony -- 6/28/2011 8:08:28 >
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