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3/20/2013 14:51:05   
Vagaran
Member

Various elements could use some re-work. Apperantly Freeze only cost 7 Energy, stuns enemy for 2 turns AND you can get attacked without getting free from the Stun. Combine this with shields spamming and Shatter and Artifacts that makes Energy goes past the limit and it's a nightmare to beat an experienced Ice Character owner.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 126
3/20/2013 14:54:41   
Jmagician
Member

@Mondez: I just tested it, it doesn't require any energy at all. And there is always this

You're right, it will render Empower completely useless when CC comes out.

< Message edited by Jmagician -- 3/20/2013 14:55:15 >
AQW  Post #: 127
3/20/2013 14:54:45   
Mondez
Member

I've faced inexperienced ice players which they make me facepalm when they use Freeze and then charge for two turns. O_o

@Jmagician
Wow they need to fix Incinerate because it beats empower if it costs 0. I guess I never noticed when I use Incinerate.

< Message edited by Mondez -- 3/20/2013 14:56:23 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 128
3/20/2013 14:56:57   
Andlu
Member

I think Incinerate just works when you discard FIRE cards. So that may be the reason why it gets more "attack"
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 129
3/20/2013 14:58:09   
Beck
Member

@Mondez
I sometimes use Freeze like that on Ice Beetle, when I get horrible cards the first turn, so as to buy me an extra turn to charge to 5 energy.
Freeze is a very good defensive card.
AQW  Post #: 130
3/20/2013 14:59:22   
Jmagician
Member

Well Shadow characters always did have an advantage in their own way through poisons and reflections so Empower is just a nice addition to that advantage, but in CC, no one will use it seeing as how Incinerate is way better. This is stuff we shouldn't worry about though o.o I hope these kinds of issues have been brought up and addressed this whole time they were working on CC.

@Andlu: That is either the case, if not, they will probably fix it to have that effect XD

< Message edited by Jmagician -- 3/20/2013 15:00:08 >
AQW  Post #: 131
3/20/2013 15:00:46   
Andlu
Member

I just hope we don't get anything like Shadowlize. Lol.
AQ DF AQW  Post #: 132
3/20/2013 15:01:22   
Mondez
Member

@Beck
Main problem was that they would charge when they capped their stack rate for no reason. I know you are an experienced ice player.

@Andlu
And empower gives a +3 and Incinerate a +6 sooo big difference.


Why is my iPad so slow in typing.

< Message edited by Mondez -- 3/20/2013 15:02:06 >
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 133
3/20/2013 15:04:49   
1st Horseman
Member

Incinerate combined with certain attacks could be extremely overpowered. Even off the top of my head, A base level like Power strike would do 13 damage, then stacking other things like a sacrifice on to would be an 18 damage attack chain. And those are just basic combos.
Post #: 134
3/20/2013 15:05:11   
Beck
Member

@Mondez
lol at that point I assume my opponent has rage-quit and that it's the AI fighting.

They should really make it easier to tell when the AI takes over in the future.
AQW  Post #: 135
3/20/2013 15:07:08   
Mondez
Member

@Beck
Good point, but though I don't see a reason when the opponent was 5 levels higher than me, then again I was using a level 4 FC and he was using a level 9 JF.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 136
3/20/2013 15:26:12   
Vagaran
Member

quote:

And empower gives a +3 and Incinerate a +6 sooo big difference.

Lol yeah, I made a post about this a while back. I think giving Incinerate a energy cost on 3-4 would be fair, because Fire can be considerably OP right now with Incinerate having that +6 bonus dmg. Either an energy cost on Incinerate or lower the bonus dmg it gives.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 137
3/20/2013 15:32:39   
Jmagician
Member

@Vagaran: Here is a request even better, rename Incinerate and give it to those Water types. There is no need to underpower the card nor is there any need to give Fire types a boost in damage output.
AQW  Post #: 138
3/20/2013 15:34:11   
Beck
Member

That might actually happen one day. We are getting new cards in the future, and what's easier than copying a existing card's effects and just give it a different element affiliation?
AQW  Post #: 139
3/20/2013 15:34:22   
Combat dummy
Member

@Vagaran: Fire Characters Have No Shields (1) Thus In Higher Leveled Battles, They Are Easilly Beatable because A normal Character Can Get around 2 Shields per deck restock. They Need 2 turns to reuse an incerate fireball combo. Ice characters at a high level can easily wreck a fire character.
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3/20/2013 15:38:29   
Vagaran
Member

@Combat
Lol.

2x Fire Ball = 20 dmg for 16 Energy.
Add 5 dmg card boosted by Incinerate (20 energy total) that's 11 extra dmg. Considering that Ice in most occasion only seem to put up around 10-15 shields it will mean they would take 16 dmg. And how about the other elements? Shouldn't they also have a fair chance vs Fire? The game should be balanced so atleast 4 elements can beat a specific elements, not just 1. Also, when E.Resistance is out, Fire will literally destroy Ice Characters.
AQ DF MQ Epic  Post #: 141
3/20/2013 15:41:04   
Mondez
Member

@Combat
Take for example HH, I can do massive damage plus destroy opponents shields very easily I can probably do 20+ damage in one turn with fireball with incinerate.

Anyways Incinerate needs the energy costs for it to be controlled
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 142
3/20/2013 15:41:09   
Jmagician
Member

I had my time playing with Ice types, I only ever lost when I fought against a Fire type ._. This was before Freeze got nerfed; this should really say something.
AQW  Post #: 143
3/20/2013 16:01:02   
bei4
Member

where are you guys in what lobby or solace?
i am at solace-91 but no one in there
i think i conna chance my name to my name in oversoul benjasaurus1 that is easier to regognice me or how you typ that xd
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 144
3/20/2013 16:01:38   
Redingard
Member

Back from school, time to grind as FC and Minotaur! Maybe some Bill the Assassin as well...

I agree, Incinerate should be nerfed. Energy is supposed to be really offensive as well, and it can't even compare to Fire. I think Fire is the most OP element right now, not Ice. Ice isn't even that strong, compared to a Light or Shadow Master.

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AQ DF MQ AQW  Post #: 145
3/20/2013 16:05:27   
bei4
Member

i saw mondez bevore i can say something he was gone ;(
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 146
3/20/2013 16:08:42   
Leprechaun
Member

@Ben
Wait we are friends in OS aren't we? :o
Post #: 147
3/20/2013 16:09:21   
bei4
Member

yeah we are little cat *meeow*
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 148
3/20/2013 16:09:50   
Labyth
Banned


 Consider incinerate is master lvl card i don't think anybody could just be able to use incinirate and aslo the fact that it actaully do believe it need fixing like it should cost 2 or 3 energy to use.
Post #: 149
3/20/2013 16:10:51   
Leprechaun
Member

@Ben
Hehe... MEOOOOOOOOOOOOW!

So excited for release! Oooh Friday, come here kitty :D

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