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3/4/2011 4:53:38   
Nailboss
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First off, I would like to say that I have a 32 main BH with full frost, founder etc. I have no problems with varium gear as it is.

However, there is a problem with non-varium gear.

I recently made a 2nd character, a mage, to go through the levels again and see how a nonvarium mage can compete (suicide, you're thinking? well i have 357wins 137losses, all 2v2, level 26 now, no 1v1 fights). Clearly a nonvar mage can be very competitive, even at lower levels.

However, at higher levels, the gear runs out.
Seriously.
Of the non-varium weapons:

There is no level 32 or 31 staff. There was a 32 one but it's rare.
There is no 32 zooka except one that's rare.
There is no 32 pistol.
There is no level 32 or 31 sword, which isn't rare. There is a single level 30 sword for physical damage, and one for energy which will soon be rare. The next energy sword is down at level 27.

I can understand that staff add more varium weapons to get money. On my main I buy these and it's fine. However if you raise the level cap, at least add one or two non-var weapons so that free players can have some kind of chance. Surely that's not too much to ask?
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3/4/2011 5:04:03   
charwelly
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Well NW and titan don't make many non variums wepons for 1 big reason...
They want you to buy varium to support the game and well yeah they genrally want you too buy varium for the game

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3/4/2011 6:38:40   
B9000
Member

Nailboss, I completely agree, and wrote about this earlier but didn't get any responses to it.

By the way, I think it is much easier to do well at lower levels since most low-level players don't seem to know many of the basic game mechanics, such as physical or energy damage with regard to defense and resistance. The real test is at levels 27+.


@Charwelly, the point isn't wasn't that we need MANY high (max) level non-varium weapons (though it would be nice, as it creates the opportunity for many types of builds). Non-varium players do NEED at least one weapon (of each type) to buy at the higher levels if the devs have an interest in some sort of balance between f2p and p2p. As I wrote in my other post, the varium advantage should be based on the extra stat points a given weapon has over the non varium counterpart on the same level. Adding additional levels of stats on top of that will ensure that this game is pay2win. The varium players have had 3 level 32 guns released, with no non-v gun of the same level. It's been almost 3 months since the first level 32 guns came out, hopefully a non-v one will be released tomorrow.
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3/4/2011 10:02:49   
od
Member

I think there's gonna be some this week at the bazaar
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3/4/2011 10:29:34   
voidance
Member

Yea just be patient guys, wait till the bazaar comes out, if nothing good comes out for non-varuim then you can rage.
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3/4/2011 10:45:37   
Vick Vega
Member

Dont worry. It appears that the somthing for nothing train is on its way to the station.
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3/4/2011 19:15:17   
Nailboss
Member

would be nice to get a staff comment on whether they're adding soon, if any of them are watching the forum
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3/4/2011 19:28:13   
One Winged Angel1357
Member


 NW did say in a PM the three part update will focus on F2P users(i have yet to see it but part three is still up in the air for all i know)
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3/5/2011 12:18:25   
Lord GaGa
Member

I agree, higher level non variums need some better weps. There will be acording to NW but whats to say anymore. Non varium mercs can get mjloir (however you spell it)
It can be used in 2v2 even at level 32. New Hope, the most active 2v2er uses mjloir.
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3/5/2011 12:23:36   
eragonshadeslayer67
Member

yes non var, non-rare weps are a bit lacking

there's a ton of good non var swords but just like good var weps, all of them are rare (too big!, swordfish cleaver, maple/independence cleavers, experiment 2B...)

and at low lvs there's the caden staves, and mjollnir, so I guess there's enough weps for you to get by until you can buy a seasonal rare, and the only thing lacking is overpowered BH claws

< Message edited by eragonshadeslayer67 -- 3/5/2011 12:24:22 >

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3/5/2011 13:19:12   
Giras Wolfe
Member

To be fair, there are no non-rare varium level 32 weapons either.

But it is true that there are no non-rare primares for nonvariums above level 30.
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