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5/25/2011 15:17:35   
He Who Lurks
Member

I've witnessed several posts about robots, the majority of which describe five focus bot builds as requiring no skill, or redundant. I've come up with a simple idea of adding a type of bar, one with a similar concept such as the energy and health bars. With the addition of this bar, robots would require a certain amount of energy in order to engage in battle, such as attacking/de-buffing. This system could lead to a plethora of new advances for the robot/pet system without impeding balance. This system would help decrease stat inflation(if you could increase the robot energy you have with stat points), and make bot battles a bit more interesting rather attacking for high damages and/or de-buffing. I'd like to request some feedback from the community .
AQ Epic  Post #: 1
5/25/2011 15:19:24   
5rr5
Banned


 The worst idea ever and I see that u don't use robots because u are against 5 focus ppl.
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 2
5/25/2011 15:24:45   
He Who Lurks
Member

How is this a horrible idea? And also, I was recently a week ago 5 focus user but decided to change to a 2vs2 build and there aren't much five level focus build users there.

Also, how am I against five-focus users? Where did I state in this thread I'm against them?
AQ Epic  Post #: 3
5/25/2011 15:26:37   
5rr5
Banned


 Because ur grandmother smells pizza and I didn't even understand something of this and can u not shortely say what u want -.-
AQ DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 4
5/25/2011 15:28:51   
He Who Lurks
Member

You didn't even get the concept of my idea did you?
AQ Epic  Post #: 5
5/25/2011 15:45:18   
  Nightwraith
Member

@5rr5 Stop flaming, please.

This is an interesting idea for limiting the power of bots, and I feel it deserves valid player feedback.
Post #: 6
5/25/2011 16:03:53   
  Omni
Quantum Mod


 If this were to be added we'd need a few things to go along with it.

More Bots: With Gamma Bot going Rare their is only one permanent bot in game. If we want to expand the robots to have their own stat to put points into we are going to need more choices.
Lower Level Availability: Stats should be effective at every level, thus lower level players having easy access to bots is important.
Focus Revision: With another stat in game to make the bots viable, players can't be expected to have high focus, decent Robot Energy, and Health/EP, thus Focus would need changed and bot damage to come from elsewhere.

Just a few of my thoughts on implementation. I really think it has great chances to spice up combat, but Bots's are notoriously tricky to balance in terms of how much their abilities are worth especially when each class is affected differently.
Post #: 7
5/25/2011 16:08:19   
Polandor
Member

Yes some kind of limitation usage on the robots is a good thing, at the same time, a few new bots could be fun..

P.S.
Good to see you post Nightwraith !
Post #: 8
5/25/2011 16:31:20   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Make a new energy bar for Robots? Heck No. They really arent that special people.
AQW Epic  Post #: 9
5/25/2011 16:35:19   
TurkishIncubus
Member

Limit robots , nerf robots , do something about them. I am the one of the ppl hate 5 focus but i am using it now because its imposible to play against them.

High def-High dmg-0 energy cost-Luck against supp and str users = 5 Focus = OPED = 0 Creativity

Can we use some skills pls ??? you know there are some skills that cost energy but hit less than 0 energy bots :S

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Epic  Post #: 10
5/25/2011 16:42:17   
veneeria
Member

I see nothing wrong with this.. it just changes the way people will use the bot..
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 11
5/25/2011 16:47:09   
Nebula
Member

I think that would be a good way to put limits on Robots. I mean, Tech Mercs and Focus Hunters are 'the most powerful builds right now'

Although, as a mage, I don't seem to have trouble with them unless they get lucky. Huh.
Post #: 12
5/25/2011 16:54:30   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Its funny how peopel always say something is Oped if they cant beat it. Its just funny.People are against it because they cant beat it and are jealous of its power.
AQW Epic  Post #: 13
5/25/2011 17:11:55   
Nebula
Member

^You're saying that like everyone who doesn't like robots are "jealous." A lot of people detest them because robots played a big part in ruining creativity for this game. BEfore the Gamma Bot, you never saw as many people spamming 45 on all stats, not even half as many.

< Message edited by Nebula -- 5/25/2011 17:25:41 >
Post #: 14
5/25/2011 17:28:06   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

No they didnt. Robots made it more fun. Agility,stat reqreuiements, and the balance update did.
AQW Epic  Post #: 15
5/25/2011 17:30:33   
Nebula
Member

Agility = low health builds = focus. Robots = focus. Stat requirements = ruins creative builds = focus. It all leads towards focus builds.
Post #: 16
5/25/2011 17:32:47   
LunarWarlord
Member

Well it is a good idea, but just think of how boreing gamma builds already are. and once they add this, it will be more boreing -_-

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AQW Epic  Post #: 17
5/25/2011 17:32:49   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Whats your point? Focus Builds are awesome.
AQW Epic  Post #: 18
5/25/2011 17:42:42   
Nebula
Member

Just because you think they're awesome doesn't mean we have to continue to be forced to use one.
Post #: 19
5/25/2011 17:59:23   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

You dont have to be forced to use them. Use another powerful OPed build. There are plenty.
AQW Epic  Post #: 20
5/25/2011 18:13:20   
goldslayer1
Member

why not have the robot attacks cost actual energy?
this way only mages can use it at the most effectiveness
and it gives them a little power up that they need.
AQW Epic  Post #: 21
5/25/2011 18:28:31   
IsaiahtheMage
Member

Nah then Mages can abuse it. Costing energy then it would need to be a skilll.
AQW Epic  Post #: 22
5/25/2011 18:30:24   
Hiddenblade
Member

I like this idea of robots, i have some suggestions:
Robots have there own hp maybe?
own energy
Have there own skill tree! could have some minor skills like: heal 15hp, regain mana for 1 turn etc. and robots have to level up maybe
better animations
robots could be like pets! and the robots follow u around etc.
Also release some new non varium robots. make the gamma bot actually go RARE

This way we could see some creative builds for player and robot, and this would add a whole new concept to the game. Instead of 5 focus builds (I use) there would be brand new creativity.

These are just my thoughts, this would make epicduel fun again in my opinion.

< Message edited by Hiddenblade -- 5/25/2011 18:31:56 >
Post #: 23
5/25/2011 18:32:01   
bighobbo
Member

What happened to Robots? The devs need to release more bots, not only for varium players, but for non-varium also. Of course, the non-varium bot will have to be much weaker than the varium ones.
Post #: 24
5/25/2011 23:13:20   
  Omni
Quantum Mod


 I think an interesting concept to the bots would be to make the majority of them be free player and have one of the two skills (Be it a regular attack, a buff, a debuff, ect) and have an enhancement system where you can select one of two skills with one being purely credit and the other being a bit stronger Varium version or any sort of combination of the mentioned.

Plenty of room for the depth of bots to massively be expanded on for all players. Even things like possible skills unlocking at different levels and what not. The gamma bot is currently a glorified weapon, and the assault bot is a debuffer, but with enough thought, effort, and balancing efforts it could be expanded into a truly involved system where bots are a new level of game play. Coustomizable Bots (Look wise), leveable bots, class specefic bots, bots that have different abilities depending on the class that equips them. As EpicDuel expands the possibilities are endless!
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