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4/16/2011 14:26:54   
Soliqe
Member

Note to AKs: This is a discussion about the suggestion, not the actual suggestion itself.

I sent a PM to Nightwraith just recently suggestion that various weapons be released to the nonvariums. The reason for this is that many Varium items are no longer thought of, not even known of, or generally unused due to statistical reasoning. I'm pretty sure most of you will agree with what I have sent to him.

(Note that I am a Varium Founder, and am not a nonvarium)

quote:

I'm not going to suggest art, but I am going to suggest something for the non Varium players. There are hundreds of weapons in EpicDuel. Many of them are really good, yet unused because they cost Varium, and they don't match up to the "Level 30" standard.

Some of these weapons, should be made free so that free players have a better choice for weapons, and and we could even see more diversity in builds.

I'm going to list various weapons in the wiki that do not need to be Varium. The reasons are the there are lower, non Varium weapons that are more powerful than these. Personally, I believe the low leveled non Varium weapons are so basic in design (not saying you design is bad, but compared to the Varium designs, it's very basic. Also, I do understand most of these weapons are from alpha)

Also, if you have the ability to check on the "purchases" of each weapon, you will most likely see a low number in purchases of these weapons. So, if you're not making money off of them, why keep them Varium? To put it straight forward, if you don't see Varium player using them, (which you could ask many players) then they aren't being used.

Swords:
Energy Cutter
Habuki's Edge
Hack Cleaver
Fierce Bio Cleaver
Retribution <<< I want to note, that this weapon is REALLY good in design, and it should be given to our non varium players.
Dark Bio Cleaver
Scrap Cleaver

Staffs:
Shock Trooper Staff
Interrogator Staff
Sidewinder Staff
Reanimator Staff
Shard Staff
Dragon Staff
Twin Phoenix Staff <<< Would like to note there is not 1 nonvarium level 31 staff and since this has low stat mods, it should be converted.

Clubs:
Whump <<< never even knew this existed (and I've been playing since October of 09)
Brutal Maul
Ventilator
Archon
Energy Archon
Blood Shard

Wrist Blades:
Jigsaw Blade
Hydraulic Slasher
Energy Trident
Soul Gougers
Lethal Claws
Super Doom Spike

Guns:
Desert Sniper
Typhoon
Elite Repeater
Plasma Magnum

Auxiliaries:
Super RPG
Plasma Zooka <<< this used to be used, but with the latest bazookas, it won't be purchased as much any more.
Devastator

As you can see, these are just a few of the weapons that are in the game. You may not see it the way I see it, and that is fine, but if something isn't being used by the paying player, it should be given to the other.

`Soliqe




< Message edited by Soliqe -- 4/16/2011 14:28:17 >

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AQW Epic  Post #: 1
4/16/2011 14:43:47   
Nebula
Member

I definitly think the Jester Staff should be a non-varium weapon, so should most of the Heartbreaker weapons, due to the fact that they are pretty much obselete compared to most weapons and the Jester Staff would be a decent weapon for non-varium mages.

But you are right about all of those weapons, they aren't very good for varium players and would give people more variety.

< Message edited by Nebula -- 4/16/2011 14:45:15 >
Post #: 2
4/16/2011 15:51:41   
Zean Zapple
Member

Again just to emphasize the importance of this fact: Soliqe is a Varium player, and he has Founder Armor.

It is players like Soliqe, that try and give non-V's a fighting chance, that make me smile. I think this is a wonderful idea


~CL_Zean
Epic  Post #: 3
4/16/2011 16:24:15   
BloodRainbow
Member

I've only ever seen like 5 of those weapons being used ingame, and didnt even know that almost half of them existed.

I support this, let the non varium players use them so that at least someone is using them.
Epic  Post #: 4
4/16/2011 16:40:21   
Scott Reese
Member

I like this idea too. I had a lot of weapons in my inventory that were once useful and warranted their Varium price tag; now I find that weapons like the Tactical Kurz MP and Super Repeater are underpowered. They could be used to expand the non-Varium weapon complement and shore up some of the outdated pricing.
Epic  Post #: 5
4/16/2011 16:41:48   
Wraith
Member
 

 Add Commando Pistol to the list.
AQ DF AQW Epic  Post #: 6
4/16/2011 17:45:56   
AQWPlayer
Member

Supported!
AQW  Post #: 7
4/16/2011 17:47:35   
DillBagel
Member

Supported.
But Nebula, Heartbreakers are still too strong for non-varium.
AQW Epic  Post #: 8
4/16/2011 17:51:35   
Tiago X
Member

@Dill:And no nonV has them.
Gewd idea, I like.
DF MQ AQW Epic  Post #: 9
4/16/2011 20:47:29   
vinchuan
Member
 

 support this idea


Post #: 10
4/16/2011 22:28:12   
od
Member

Add:
lightining rod
specops elite
orions staff

Epic  Post #: 11
4/16/2011 22:44:41   
voidance
Member

Overlord Staff.
AQW Epic  Post #: 12
4/17/2011 1:35:26   
Soliqe
Member

I only added these weapons because they're weapons no one uses. Some levels, (like level 18 for example) did not have have ONE single nonvarium weapon in certain categories.
AQW Epic  Post #: 13
4/17/2011 1:48:47   
Silver Sky Magician
Member


 Supported.
Post #: 14
4/17/2011 3:23:53   
vinchuan
Member
 

 Support as a varium user
Post #: 15
4/17/2011 5:45:09   
DarkNight1223
Member

Supported as a variumer. Non-v aren't as powerful as varium-users. There are more non-v. You'll usually fight a non-varium user, but its too easy. I wanted a challange from them, so support
Post #: 16
4/17/2011 5:48:52   
goldslayer1
Member

Agreed
coming from a varium player aswell.
maybe my alt can have some of these
AQW Epic  Post #: 17
4/17/2011 5:49:07   
8x
Member

Only problem with this is that people who bought those weapons with varium would complain.

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Epic  Post #: 18
4/17/2011 5:50:24   
goldslayer1
Member

@8x
give them a refund
i mean the ammount of varium is REALLY low it shouldn't cost much.
AQW Epic  Post #: 19
4/17/2011 5:54:50   
jegaggin
Member

i think non vars should be given power so that if there is a little luck on their side they can win. Vars pay so that they can win without luck.
AQ AQW Epic  Post #: 20
4/17/2011 7:58:28   
zenix
Member

Supported.
Post #: 21
4/17/2011 8:27:58   
temtu
Member

not supported
i think this because people with var pay good money 2 get these weps

and 2 add 2 that list

armers from steve2.0
AQW Epic  Post #: 22
4/17/2011 8:36:50   
Nebula
Member

quote:

Supported.
But Nebula, Heartbreakers are still too strong for non-varium.


Only the Auxs, Azrael and Azrael's Bane and the Heartbreaker Staff. The other weapons are definitly not.
Post #: 23
4/17/2011 8:42:19   
zenix
Member

@ temtu

Yes and no.
Yes: Sure people buy varium and thus varium items. They even buy varium at low levels. Still, the lowest lvl items i've seen in use so far were lvl 15 armours and auxilaries (Assault Magnum). There are some more items on the route to lvl 28-30, but most of the varium gear isn't seen often.
No: The first usefull time to buy varium stuff is around lvl 25 (well, actually: with the latest update it's lvl 23, for the lvl 28 armours). And i'm pretty sure, that many bought their first varium very late, like lvl 28-30.
Post #: 24
4/17/2011 8:42:38   
skeletondude
Member

ok i completely agree with this idea speaking as a non var it was evry difficult to find gud weapons lyk tht so if this idea works then gud atleast non var hav a chance of winning
AQW Epic  Post #: 25
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