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5/4/2011 7:21:32   
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                               Introduction

First of all, if you're too lazy to read this whole post, then at least read this Introduction and the Conclusion. I'm a level 30 non-varium Tech Mage. I know how it feels to lose time... after time... after time. I know there's been a lot of controversy about classes being OP or UP, the balance problems of EpicDuel, and how some Varium players are fighting unfairly with way too good weapons and other things, blah, blah, blah. But the way I see it is that EpicDuel, because it's a PVP-based game, people notice balance problems, how some classes are better than others, and so on more than usual. This is why you get so many complaints on the Forums about different things-people notice it more because they're fighting other people that are one of those classes, have those weapons, and are just better than you, so when something happens badly for them they can immediately blame Titan and Nightwraith for making one class more OP or UP than another. This makes it hard for them. I have seen a lot of people saying that Titan and Nightwraith are money hungry these days, but you have to give them at least some credit for actually being able to endure all the rants of people and make an update every week trying to improve EpicDuel the best they can at that present time. Sure, they sometimes don't live up to all their promises, especially some major ones people have been wanting for a while now; (2 v 1 boss battles, anyone?) but at least they're trying to make EpicDuel better in some way, even if it's really small. In this post I will say what I think about the controversies of balance, varium-to-non-varium, and other topics of interest. ( To me at least.)

                              Balance Controversy

All the classes of EpicDuel are supposed to be very similar, and some of the skills for each class have a very vivid resemblance to another skill from another class. With other skills the relationship is somewhat harder to realize. So when you see this,  please bear in mind that some of these skills don't really correspond with any of the other skills in other classes. 

Tech Mage.   Mercenary.       Bounty Hunter.   Class with the best skill.

Field Medic.           Field Medic.       Field Medic.       Tech Mage
Defense Matrix.   Blood Shield.  Energy Shield.   Bounty Hunter
Technician.           Field Commander. Reflex Boost. Bounty Hunter
Malfunction.       Intimidate.       Smoke Screen. Bounty Hunter
Overload.             Maul.            Stun Grenade.  Mercenary
Plasma Rain.       Artillery Strike. Multi-Shot.   Mercenary
Supercharge.       Surgical Strike.   Massacre.    Bounty Hunter
Assimilation.      Atom Smasher. EMP Grenade. Bounty Hunter
Bludgeon.           Double Strike.   Venom Strike.  Bounty Hunter
Plasma Bolt.        Bunker Buster.  Cheap Shot.    Mercenary
Deadly Aim.        Hybrid Armor. Shadow Arts. Mercenary
Reroute.             Berserker.        Blood Lust.      Mercenary

I am not recommending anything in this section of the post, convincing anybody of anything, I just want to tell all of you what I think.


                            Varium-Nonvarium Controversy

This has been a problem with EpicDuel ever since it started gettin more popular in Beta times. (I was not around then, but that's what I've heard.) Varium players ARE SUPPOSED to be better than Nonvarium. Some think the gap is way too big, some think it's just right, and others think that Nonvarium are allowed to play EpicDuel just so the better Varium players can beat on those "noobs" to get easy wins every once in a while. I think all you Varium players should even for just one day not equip their Varium stuff and either buy or dig out of the bottom of their inventory some Nonvarium weapons, armor, and NO ROBOT just to see how much us Nonvarium players lose so you hopefully understand how it feels to be a Nonvarium. Also, if you say that you were a Nonvarium in your level 25-30 days and "know how it feels to lose", try it again. Then you'll really know how it is these days. Nonvarium players can give some contention to other Varium players if  they're very skilled or are just lucky, but most Nonvarium players lose  99 out of 100 battles against Varium players. (Believe me, it's happened.) Also, the Varium players complain as much or more than the Nonvarium players do, which is completely crazy. The Varium players already have an edge, but for some of them whenever any Nonvarium player finds a way to beat them then they have to go and complain that there needs to be better balance, so then sometimes in the next update, Nonvariums get nerfed and lose even more. I think it's time to finally give Nonvarium players SOMETHING to help us. I have some recommendations for what they can do, but I'm going to leave that open-ended for now. 


                                       Fame

As countless people have been saying: fame promotes elitism. It annoys me that MOST of the people on the top fame leaders list just stand around and ask everybody fame for fame. Fame is one of the most different things about EpicDuel. It has nothing to do with the focal point: battling. It has to do with making two clicks to make someone else happy. The fact that achievements can be gotten from fame is just plain dumb. People are improving their rating by asking people "Fame for Fame?". Two of the people on the all-time Fame list really stand out for me- Bluebird No 1 and Fay Beee. They got their fame not by asking people for fame, but by actually being good and getting lots of wins. (At least I don't think they ask people for fame.) A lot of people ask others for fame, but there are some people ( myself included) that don't ask for fame. We just actually fight and go along with our lives, not spending them asking to have more fame from pretty much everybody we come across, fighting or otherwise. Fame is stupid. I don't really want to remove it for some weird reason, but I think that's the only possible solution at the time to fix the problems with it. It's just that lots of people will then complain that they took away fame, but that's their loss, and that's what they get for abusing it.


                               Enhancements

This sort of goes with the Varium-Non-Varium controversy, but I think it should be in a place of its own. Varium players have always been better than Non-Varium, but with the recent addition of Zooka/Gun Enhancements it just widened the gap. Varium players get better Enhancements for their weapons than Non-Varium players do, but they also get more enhancement slots for their weapons. Because Varium players spend less fake money than Non-Variums, the price for Varium Enhancements is less. But I don't think the price of credit Enhancements should be so high. Sure, the recent update lowered the price, so its somewhat easier, but it's still extremely hard to get Enhancements. If someone has a really good aux that has 10 enhancement slots, then they want to fully enhance it, it's gonna cost 110,000 credits for 10 stats. This number is just outrageous so in this section I'm recommending that for the 7-10th Enhancements of a weapon the difference between that and the one before it should be less. Just an idea.


                

                                 The Community

The community of EpicDuel in-game and in forums is way too disrespectful. For a lot of people, if you say hi at the beginning of a battle they won't even talk to you throughout the whole battle. You ask a question, they don't say s word. One personal pet peeve is when someone says good game after a 2-4 round massacre of me. I know they're trying to be nice, but it really annoys me when they do this, because it's not really a good game. But, back on topic. People are almost always having verbal fights on Forums and sometimes in battles too. It's just so annoying when people have to be so mean around everyone else. As they said in the Design Notes of April 26, Elf Priest Jzaanu has done a lot to help make EpicDuel better. I really look up to her as a role model for what a nice person is. I know of a TV show where people go crazy about something very small, but it's funny. This happens sometimes on forums, and it's just so unnecessary it's nowhere close to funny.

      
                                      Conclusion 

The main thing I'm trying to say in all of this is that EpicDuel has it's problems, but it also has its greatnesses. Nobody can please everybody, but you can please a lot of people. The problem is, there will always be some unsatisfied people out there, you just have to deal with them.

< Message edited by forums lol -- 5/6/2011 16:50:12 >
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5/4/2011 13:57:22   
TurkishIncubus
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here is my skill powers by classes
First you cant compare some skills ,

Field Medic / Field Medic / Field Medic. Mage
Defense Matrix / ------------ / Energy Shield Mage / Hunter
Technician / Field Commander / Reflex Boost Hunter
Malfunction / Intimidate / Smoke Screen Hunter
Overload / Maul / Stun Grenade Mercenary
Plasma Rain / Artillery Strike / Multi-Shot / Mercenary
Supercharge / Surgical Strike / Venom strike Merc
Assimilation / Atom Smasher / EMP Grenade Mage
Bludgeon / Berserker-double strike / Massacre. Bounty Hunter
Plasma Bolt / Bunker Buster / Cheap Shot / Mercenary
Deadly Aim / Blood shield / Shadow Arts Mage
Reroute / Hybrid Armor / Blood Lust Hunter

4 - Mage skill , 5- Hunter skill , 4- Merc skill is better in their section

Underlined the changed things


< Message edited by TurkishIncubus -- 5/4/2011 13:59:06 >


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5/4/2011 15:58:14   
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@TurkishIncubus, for some of the skills I wasn't so sure which was better, but it's completely up to you on some of them.
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5/4/2011 16:04:48   
xxmirxx
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I never beg for fame as well.
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5/4/2011 18:35:11   
One Winged Angel1357
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ill do this part by part becuase i had plenty of time to sit down and read all of it(also im a nice guy and im not scared by walls of text)

Intro-
You did a great job of setting up the rest of the post and made sure to touch back in your arguments to what was said in the intro which people dont always do

Balance-
i personally know nothing about ballance even which PD always showing some new idea for ballance i learn nothing but im gonna say nicely down

P2P/F2P-
Great idea man becuase you never know a man until you walk a mile in his shoes and i can bet most of these P2P saying things about F2P point of view have gone awhile without using F2P gear with no enhancments(becuase in all honesty we are broke 90% of the time)

Fame-
Fame is one of the silliest things in ED and it was even rejected by the community on EDF becuase it promoted Elitism which we are clearly seeing now. The worst part about fame is the only winners are the People with tons of friends who do nothing or the incredily famous people if your just good you can win 100 fights and earn 0 fame

Enhancments-
Stat inflation nuff said

Titan/NW-
They are just trying to make pay if you think they are money hungry perhaps you would like to pay their bills so they can lower prices

Community-
We have some incredily dissrespectful and elitist players in ED but what can you do when they are the only ones who use Forums and the people like Fay just play the game

Ok thats pretty much it so overall very nice post man and P2P's remember walk a mile in our shoes before you try to talk for us again its not like you say it is for us i promise

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5/5/2011 4:27:56   
Deadly PoisoN
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I read it all,do most the time.Some things you stated i'm in agreement with,while others just made no sense at all,as in there's no basis for it.The varium/non varium issue is one i stated earlier when i was a non varium.I played a non varium merc all the way to lvl32 which was easy,trashed some variums along the way,primarily mages and hunters.Then i got tired of the easy wins and created a hunter.

Boy did i feel stupid after a few battles,winning as a non varium hunter at lvl30 was next to impossible in a 2v2.That's when i decided to buy him varium and it's way easy with him now.Conclusion?I know what a non varium character is,also know how hard it is to play one and the extra stats that varium gives you makes the non variums like cardboard in comparison.

How does it differ if you've bought 1 varium pack or several?There's where you made no sense,my current character has 2 varium primaries,aux,bot,armour and a gun+basically full enhancements only missing 3 stat points.I'm going to buy more stuff when i feel i need it.I'm a full varium just like someone with more varium items and i thrash any free players just as easily as any varium user.I'm well aware of the disadvantages of not paying in this game,why do you think i did?

I was heavily against fame at the start,just so we're clear,haven't asked a single person either.Because i'm not going to make a fool of myself by asking something that's contrary to it's name.Fame isn't begged for,it's earned.But it was meant as a marketing tool anyways,hence the high rated achievements.The feature doesn't bother me and i in fact 'fame' people if they ask me,it doesn't hurt me.I just choose not to take part in it because i'd feel stupid if i had to.

And now comes the most ridiculous part of your entire post,who would want more money or why?Most people do,it's obvious why,i'm not wasting my time explaining that to you too.With that said,you obviously are a very nice person,but one of those nice types that never feel anyone is taking advantage of them.Trust me,they make WAY more money than those 4 small little servers cost them and all the other stuff you said.

Btw they don't even pay for the forum,they work for a company now and earn salary.Artix entertainment is a much richer company than you'd think.The community is plain bad yes,won't argue there.

Conclusion?This game is pay to win,has been that way since i started playing.The ones that pay more win more,there's not a shred of skill needed,believe me.
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